Tilley Radiator Burner Head - ceramic part

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  1. Rich F United Kingdom

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    I have been working on a Tilley radiator and the ceramic part of the burner head has cracked into several pieces. Despite having a look on the internet I can't seem to find replacement ceramic parts apart from the tube. Does anyone know if these are available? If not I shall have to get the lathe and milling machine into operation and make a replacement in brass.
     

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    That’s a shame
    Actually I think that part may be cast iron? Only way to source would be a 2nd hand burner unless someone has a spare?
    Yes, if you could turn one up out of brass or hard braze back together with a high temp rod maybe?
    It may weld up but old cast can be tricky

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    Edit : Sorry, !!!! it does look like ceramic!
    Never seen a ceramic one yet
    I’ll get me coat…:oops:
     
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    Yes definitely ceramic like you say. No need to get your coat :-)
     
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    New one to me also. Component ‘C’ on my burner is brass as you can see and it’s threaded to screw into the cast iron body ‘B’.

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  5. Tony Press

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    I'll have to check my old Tilley radiator burners. My recollection is that I've seen only brass fittings on mine.

    I think I have a spare one, but you're best going to the Base Camp for a replacement.


    Cheers

    Tony
     
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    Mine are also cast iron.
     
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    I have several radiators and have not seen a ceramic part as indicated in the above initial post. Only ever the ceramic spigot tube protector. Very interesting indeed. Could it be a WWII war years thing to save brass?
     
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    It does look like a broken cast metal/iron piece.
    Are you certain it is ceramic and not magnetic?
    The weight difference between cast iron and ceramic would also tell.
     
  9. Rich F United Kingdom

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    Definitely ceramic, very light and brittle. Looks like I will be machining a replacement from brass when I get round to it.
     
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    For those that are interested I have made a replacement part for the burner head in brass. Working a treat now and been burning for a couple of hours no problem.
     

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    Excellent work.
     
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    Nice work, excellent result :thumbup:
     
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    That's a nice piece of burner you've made :thumbup:
     
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    Congratulations and well done mate.
     
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    Top job and great photos :thumbup::thumbup:
     
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    Careful- you will get orders for them now !
     
  18. Rich F United Kingdom

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    I could go into business
     
  19. Paul Burnell

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    Thats a beautiful piece of machining...Envy is a terrible thing.....
    I tend to do most of my repairs with a hammer.

    I'm working on a bialaddin fire bowl at the moment, and the ceramic tubey thing is missing and the previous owner replaced it with a piece of half inch copper..

    Can anyone tell me what it does ???
     
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    Hi Paul - yes the ceramic saves the brass tube underneath from the direct ravages of the flame/heat inside the burner screen. I guess the designer/engineer found this neccesary. I have not tried running one without it.
     
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    Thanks Fireexit, good to know. I have one in order.
     
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    Running without the ceramic insulator will first damage the brass tube and eventually the vapouriser.


    Tony
     
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    I can definitely do without that ..

    Thanks Tony
     
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    I have just had a moment of memory :doh:: - I bought an R1 cheaply unseen and somebody had made their own brass version of the ceramic tube. The burner did not want to come off the vaporiser - so after the ever-increasing levels of violence deployed to remove it - I found that the vapouriser had expanded inside the errant brass tube that would not let go.
    it is buried in this thread : Tilley R1 burner home made parts
     
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    @Fireexit1 Uh Oh...that sounds very unpleasant.
    I will just have to wait for the ceramic tube to arrive from Jullian at Tilleylampsandstoves.co.uk
     

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