Since this is only my 2nd Tilley , 1st FL6, we don't really see much of these in the US , it kinda came to me in pieces , at least the frame, glass, and breass retainer ring . I know it.uses a #191 mantle but what is comparable to that ? I'm not finding anything for 191's , even on ebay . Id have to look but almost certain I have some generic double tie mantles for Petromax type that I may try . Other than that I need to know how the front frame , glass , and inner brass retainer ring go together ? Frame , glass , and flat side of brass ring against the glass ? Or does the glass fit inside the brass ring and then goes in glass 1st against the inside of the frame ? Didn't seem to make a difference how I spin the brass ring I could only get 2 bolt holes to line up , maybe I'm just.overthinking it or something? Any help will be greatly appreciated , Thank you
It's possible to rig the Tilley 164 X mantle, which is the mantle that is usually used on Tilley lamps and lanterns, I have used thick fuse wire to hold the mantle to the burner, if you have any double tie mantles which have untied strings then they can also be rigged to fit, but depending on the size of those mantles the top may need to be folded over more than once to reduce the size. The first link below shows relevant paperwork, but the library is only open to subscribers, the second link shows an FL-6 restoration topic which has images that may help you to rebuild your example. https://classicpressurelamps.com/threads/1953-about-tilley-fl6.407/ FL-6 Restoration started
Well the only difference I see between my x246 and FL6 is a x246 has 3 breather/air tubes whereas a FL6 only has 2 , other than that the mixing chamber/burner tube is the same size for both so of course a 164 mantle will fit , just not big enough to create the Co.the FL6 is rated at. I did find a restoration video for an FL6 that shows the correct orientation of the brass retaining ring , mine must not have the correct one in it , my Brass ring.only has 6 holes for screw/nuts and the outer frame has to 10 , currently I am only able to get 2 holes , opposite of each other to line up.
But of course the 191 mantle is smaller than the 164 mantle, the FL6 burner being of lesser diameter, hence @JEFF JOHNSON ’s suggestion of using wire to take up the slack in the 164 mantle. The FL6’s parabolic reflector creates the directional light required of a usably intense candlepower.
Good find .. they must be scarce across the pond? what Jeff and John have said is correct ; you can use the standard Tilley 164x mantle but its pre-tied so use fuze wire or any thin wire this is because the area on the FL6 burner where the mantle sits is smaller than the x246 burner? just enough to make a difference Regards Pb
Ok , now yous and Jeff's replies are starting to put things into perspective. It would really help if I could find a few 191's , at least 1 to burn in so I had an idea of the size any generic mantle I use is supposed to be or end up close . Now on to the retaining ring inside the outer frame for the glass and finding replacement screw/nuts and decals
Apparently I need to Google "fuse wire" , I'm sure we're have something the same , just a different name for it and yes , rarely see anything Tilley over here so it's hard to be "familiar" with them . Usually what gets me in trouble is "Buy 1st,Ask questions later".
Thanks , I have looked there once , site is a little overwhelming and have not figured out how to add stuff to a cart or just message them with what I want to buy
Have a look here - Contact us Your choice of course but probably best for you to email. Also, at the very bottom of the page you'll see this: How much does postage cost on an order?....Click here...!
Don't have much of a choice when it's the only way the website is set up . Really at this point all I need is 191 mantles but already have some untied / double tie mantles I can try . I was initially looking for a few other parts but am currently in talks with someone who may have everything I am looking for , to buy all at one
@D_Vernon For clarity: 1. An untied Tilley 164 mantle can be tied to the FL6 burner and gives a respectable light. I use these mantles (or ‘other brand’ equivalent) on my FL6s when I get them going first time, then later put the 191 mantles on. 2. I always communicate with the Base Camp via email. They provide excellent service and product. Tony
Thank you , I was able to purchase 15 - #191 mantles from Basecamp and 2 new 7" vapourizers from Tilley , I'm still looking for a few other (hard to find) parts , TheTilleyMan replied that he had the parts I am looking for , I replied back with a complete list last week and still haven't heard back
Next issue , i.dont think this is the correct lens frame for an FL6 , the copper lens retaining ring only has 6 screws holes yet the steel outer frame has 10 , no holes in the steel frame were added after the fact , they're all the same oblong shape and too evenly spaced apart.
Over the years there have been variations to the FL6. A few photos of the floodlight and the component you’re dealing with will help. I’ve fettled a few, as has @Anthony. Cheers Tony
I have a few before I received it and it is currently dismantled ,let me know if you're looking for something specific.
Looked at my Fl6 earlier today. The door has 6 holes / bolts yet the retaining ring has 8. Just maybe bits got swapped about on these lamps during maintane and such. 10 holes seems a lot but your glass wont fall out Cheers pete
Well between you and I , I'd prefer it to be correct , same # of holes in the frame as in the copper ring , just looks better , may be wishful thinking. Worse case I will drill 8 more holes to line up with the holes in the steel outer frame
As far as I can tell it fits , looks the same all the way around , Also all 10 holes in the other frame are identical , evenly spaced and sam oblong shape
@D_Vernon I reckon you’ll be very hard pressed to find a “correct” replacement retaining ring, unless someone here has a wrecked FL6. The best place to try is Base Camp (UK). Send them an email. You may also try “The Tilley Man” a.k.a TTM on the Bay of evil. I’ll as the only place here in Oz I know that might have one. Where did you find that FL6? Tony
Does your front door (for the glass) fit neatly onto the circumference of the light barrel cylinder? Tony
Easy for me to check if you measure (in mm) the inside diameter of the door, and the outside diameter of the barrel. Tony
@D_Vernon I’m trying to make sure you’ve got the right door on the FL6… I’ve measured my two black FL6s and the doors and the cylindrical “barrel” are a very snug fit. The inside diameter of the door is ~357mm (3.57cm). The outside diameter of the barrel is approximately the same, give or take a couple of mm due to age and use. In the measuring system still used by Liberia, Myanmar and one other country, that’s 14”. Tilley gives the diameter of the reflector as 14”. The inside diameter of your door should be very close to 14”. Also: My SL1 also has the same sized door. All these lights have 6 retaining screws/nuts. Cheers Tony
