Tilley (?) spotted in "Captain America"

Discussion in 'Pressure Lamp Discussion Forum' started by Marco Carlo, Sep 13, 2025.

  1. Marco Carlo Italy

    Offline
    Joined:
    May 9, 2025
    Messages:
    26
    Location:
    Italia
    Hi friends, I’d love to share these photos in the proper section, but unfortunately I don’t have the privilege . So I’m posting them here instead — just wanted to share them with you guys, hope you enjoy

    IMG_20250912_233133.jpg IMG_20250912_233142.jpg
     
    Last edited by a moderator: Sep 14, 2025
  2. Rangie

    Rangie United States Subscriber

    Offline
    Joined:
    Dec 8, 2012
    Messages:
    552
    Location:
    Caithness, Far North of Scotland
    Yes indeed, a 1960s X246A :thumbup:

    Alec.
     
  3. Jean J

    Jean J Subscriber

    Offline
    Joined:
    Jun 25, 2011
    Messages:
    2,904
    Location:
    N E Scotland
    Couldn’t they find a Coleman?
     
  4. MYN

    Offline
    Joined:
    Feb 28, 2018
    Messages:
    3,836
    Location:
    Malaysia
    Which Captain America movie?
    I suppose the Marvel Cinematic Universe ones with Chris Evans as the lead actor?
    I did not watch any of them.
    Which one the following?:
    1. The First Avenger.
    2. The Winter Soldier.
    3. Civil War.

    Did the Tilley fit into the correct timeline setting in that particular movie?
    Where was the supposed location set in?

    Even though Captain America was completely based on a purely fictional comic-book character, I think it is still important for the movie script and producers to get it to be as realistic and "historically-authentic" as posssible.:lol:
     
  5. Marco Carlo Italy

    Offline
    Joined:
    May 9, 2025
    Messages:
    26
    Location:
    Italia
    That's the First Avenger. Set in Italy duringbthe italian campaign 1943/44.. not so much correct cause in Italy we had our brands for pressure lamps (Solex, Fair, Petroflam, Providus...etc.) and the american soldiers used Coleman lanterns
     
  6. MYN

    Offline
    Joined:
    Feb 28, 2018
    Messages:
    3,836
    Location:
    Malaysia
    I suppose the earlier Captain America theme has a lot to do about against Nazi Germany.
    The British Army did join the Allied Forces in the Italian Campaign during WWII:
    The_British_Army_in_Sicily_1943_NA4384.jpg
    (Photo taken in Sicily 1943, I think).

    The film was released in 2011. I think CPL was already in existence.
    At least the producers of The First Avenger should have consulted CPL and used the Tilley EX4, EX100 or maybe PL53 models as props instead of the X246 or X246A? :lol::content:](*,):-k
     
  7. Marco Carlo Italy

    Offline
    Joined:
    May 9, 2025
    Messages:
    26
    Location:
    Italia
    Hmhh...no. During the Italian campaign the Americans and the British fought side by side, but their camps remained strictly separate. Each force had its own supply system — tents, kitchens, vehicles, even different electrical standards — and they never exchanged equipment. This was essential not only for logistical and inventory reasons, but also for discipline and identity: every army had to remain self-contained. . The only thing they truly shared was the battlefield: they fought together, but they lived apart;
    This is actually shown quite well in the film, where the camp is entirely American, with no sign of British troops nearby
     
  8. MYN

    Offline
    Joined:
    Feb 28, 2018
    Messages:
    3,836
    Location:
    Malaysia
    I see. At least they kept certain historical traits within convincing tolerance.
    But maybe they could have still used the Coleman 220BX instead?:D
    I'm not sure if the American troops brought any Coleman or other brands to Italy during the Campaign. Perhaps the CCF or ICCC guys might know better...
     
  9. JEFF JOHNSON

    JEFF JOHNSON United Kingdom Subscriber

    Offline
    Joined:
    Nov 28, 2010
    Messages:
    16,179
    Location:
    Shetland Islands UK..
    In period films etc., they often get the lighting wrong by using lanterns etc., which are to modern for the period which the film is set in.
     
  10. kettle

    Offline
    Joined:
    Feb 22, 2019
    Messages:
    29
    Location:
    Uk
    Some equipment did cross the lines between armies as traded goods, however the US army used petrol lamps and petrol cookers, so no fuel if they got hold of a British vapalux, chalk it up to props department wanting an old looking thing in the background, the film involves aliens, so a bit of leeway is allowed, though captain america did do a time travel arc in a later film.
     
  11. Fireexit1 United Kingdom

    Offline
    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2020
    Messages:
    3,495
    Location:
    Brighton UK
    Film makers often get the firearms wrong too; 'Zulu' depicts the battle of Rourke's Drift in January 1879, yet we see Webley Mk VI revolvers (1915) and Lee-Enfield Mk.I CLLE (Charger Loading Lee Enfield) (1907).

    And it continues to this day - the recent Yellowstone spinoff '1883' features a Winchester Model 1885 High Wall.
     
  12. MYN

    Offline
    Joined:
    Feb 28, 2018
    Messages:
    3,836
    Location:
    Malaysia
    It is not easy at all to get every single thing correct. That alone need a lot of involvement from historians, professionals and experts from every conceivable field relevant to the film setting.

    Sometimes, it might not even be desirable to make everything that precise.
    Example, if a movie/film is to be made in a setting during the time of say, King Alfred the Great around the Anglo-Saxons era, I'm sure they won't want to use the Old English in the dialogue and spoken in the exact dialect of real, historical people from that region and time.
    How many of us would understand that?
     
  13. Fireexit1 United Kingdom

    Offline
    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2020
    Messages:
    3,495
    Location:
    Brighton UK
    Well if it is in Wessex old English I would manage, but the Northumrbian dialect would give me a lot of trouble..
     
  14. JEFF JOHNSON

    JEFF JOHNSON United Kingdom Subscriber

    Offline
    Joined:
    Nov 28, 2010
    Messages:
    16,179
    Location:
    Shetland Islands UK..
    I recall watching a period drama which was set in the Victorian era and there were Aladdin mantle lamps shown and there was a pot on the stove / range which was not produced until the 1940's.
     
    Last edited: Sep 15, 2025
  15. MYN

    Offline
    Joined:
    Feb 28, 2018
    Messages:
    3,836
    Location:
    Malaysia
    The same as what if they used Latin, Vulgar Latin and Koine Greek in the film Gladiator?
    I'm not sure if it would enjoy a similar box office success Worldwide.
     

Share This Page