Kayen AP2 Unused in original Box

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  1. PaulH

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    My latest find is an Kayen AP2 from T.S. Nettlefold & Sons Pty. Ltd. of 189 King St. Melbourne. I have some other Kayen lamps, but this one had never been assembled, the box is falling apart, the globe and pre-heater bottle were wrapped in newspaper, other items wrapped in brown paper all packed in what seems to be straw? There was no instruction leaflet inside the box, and time had taken its toll the newspaper and brown paper fell apart to the touch, but it has enabled me to get an approximate date of manufacture, the newspaper was THE AGE Thursday 27th March 1947. There is a spare pump washer in the vaporiser bag. As you will see from the photos surface rust and tarnish were present, I have given it a bit of a clean, managing to save the decal but not removing all the tarnish around it. I have replaced all the seals, pump leather is still good, so I left that in place, run it dry, holds pressure and vaporiser clear. I'm trying to decide whether to fire it up or not?

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    A splendid find!:thumbup::clap::clap::thumbup:
    The packing may be wood shavings.
     
  3. PaulH

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    Thanks Jeff, probably still other lamps to be found, but I'm running out of space.
     
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    Hello Paul, yes, lack of space is a common problem.
     
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    Marvellous find. Great photos.
     
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    Excellent. Answers a lot of questions.

    I did a post here a long time ago wondering why we don't see Kayen boxes like we see Tilley boxes. It is because the reflector was always included and not as practical to keep as a Tilley box.

    Does the glass have any markings ??
    Could you take a pic with this glass and a numbered Tilley glass please.

    Having a Kopsen on the label says a lot.

    Never seen that preheater.
     
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    Congratulations Paul, a great find.:thumbup:
    The burner is Interesting, how flat and square edged the top of mixing tube is.
     
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    Sweet find, congrats!
     
  9. Tony Press

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    Great find! And a very good reference piece.

    Don’t fire it up. I’m happy to swap you two Kayen users for an unfired one :lol::lol::lol:.

    Cheers

    Tony
     
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    Thanks for your comments, as for the glass, all Australian made 182 Tilley type glass, they are very thick moulded and as far as I have seen never marked. The burner is an over engineered brass monster, designed to last as long as the lamp, the burner body is around 1/3 taller than equivalent Tilley burner but the mixing tube shorter with a squared off top. Then you have the pump, very heavy brass, again designed to last a few lifetimes, with the exception of the enamelled hood, which is quite thin steel and enamel, very well made and engineered lanterns, great tribute to the Tilley EX100.
     
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    Let me think :-k.
     
  12. Anthony

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    I was checking to see if you had one of these globes.

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    I have been waiting for a lot of years for a NIB to come up. :clap:
     
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    Very interesting, I know Agee Pyrex made glass for Austramax, I've never come across a 182 type globe, I'll keep my eye out, a new search.
     
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    Wow, that truly is an amazing find.
    Congratulations mate, I'm with Tony leave it unfired, but of course it's your lamp, and your decision.
     
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    Given this lantern has been boxed and unused for 78 years, I am trying to repair the box, and keep it unfired, I think the only reason other makers boxes survive in numbers, is because you can store your lamp assembled in them, the Kayen box is not suitable that is why very rare to be seen lamp in original box. Thanks.
     
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    Hi Anthony, here is a photo of the Tilley 182 globe from Scottish glass maker Monax, very similar to your marking from Agee Pyrex. This globe is old and damaged, but I keep it on a T10 Lamp from the 1930's
     

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    Very nice globe.
    I have only seen one other like it.
    It is surprising how many variations of shielded globes there are.
    Thanks.

    About the size of the Kayen box, Kayens were always sold with a reflector but with Tilley, reflectors were an extra.
    Kayen should have learnt from Tilley that the box worth keeping was really good marketing.
     
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    Wow, great find.
     
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    The box is 13.5 inches (w) x 13.5 inches (d) x 9 inches (h). The label I sort of restored is the first photo above. in metric it would be 34cm x 34cm x 23cm. the box is not reinforced just corrugated cardboard, but did its job protecting this lantern.
     

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