New Tilley owner, help required please!

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  1. Sploosh33 United Kingdom

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    Hi guys,

    I've been lurking here for a while and soaking up information. Such a friendly and helpful bunch it seems! I've just bought my first house and with it came an X246B and what I believe to be a BR49 which I have now restored and runs lovely. It seems to have given me the pressure lamp bug though! I'll post some pictures up when I can.

    My current issue is a table lamp of sorts that I am building up from parts and one of the eBay kits (can't remember the chaps name, makes a lot of the grass tilley parts). Old brass control cock (carefully cleaned out with new seals and springs) brand new burner assembly from the eBay chap, brand new genuine Tilley vapouriser, new Tilley mantle. Cannot get it to stop burning with huge orange flames!

    It's likely to live indoors on display when it's finished and I can sort a shade, and likely rarely or not often used, but I'm an engineer by trade and I'd like all my lamps to be working and ready to go as that's part of the attraction!

    Any ideas?

    Thank you!
     

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    Welcome aboard!:thumbup:
    The jet on the vapouriser is enlarged, the modern Tilley parts are of very poor quality.
     
  3. Sploosh33 United Kingdom

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    Really? I got it straight out of the box, direct from Tilley this afternoon, after having tried 3 old but unknown ones that I'd cleaned out as best i could
     
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    Here is the BR49 I've cleaned up, this one works a charm! (Excuse the background, I'm not an alcoholic, it just lives on the drinks cabinet at the moment!)
     

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    It could well be a new dodgy vapouriser like jeff says this could be proved by lighting it with a known good vapouriser from your other lamp.
    Similar flareups can be caused by not preheating long enough or too much pressure in the tank when first lighting after the pre heating
    Cheers pete
     
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    Hi @Sploosh33 and Welcome !

    As folks have mentioned it is quite possible that the new vapouriser is at fault.. i have had this happen myself ; when i contacted them they asked me to return it and sent another with a free mantle to cover the postage. That one was ok and works well enough.
    Nice lamps :thumbup:

    regards
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  7. Sploosh33 United Kingdom

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    So after a couple of gin and tonics, and more parts swaps than I can count, I came up with the following:

    - New vapouriser is naff, however it works well enough in the x246b, just pulses a lot. Closer inspection shows the end with the jet isn't even welded on centrally!

    - Known working vapouriser caused the same flare ups, only this time much higher flames! This is after 3 full pre-heats, and I've got pretty good with the other two lamps so not technique.

    - Dug out a (brand new but non genuine) burner assembly, fitted some screw type air tubes to it and fitted it with a new mantle. A few flares (even with only 10 pumps to start) but it has now eventually settled down. Still has a bit of an orange haze above the mantle, but i have to admit I've never seen the top before as this is the first time with a table lamp and no hood, so may be perfectly normal!

    Any ideas why a brand new burner could be causing this? It doesn't make any sense to me!
     

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    Hi
    some progress so that’s good :thumbup:

    could i ask if it is the burner in the first photo and was that a burner from juliands at all?

    (i always try things without a mantle first as it’s possible to get an idea of things by looking at the flamelets )

    there is nearly always a halo around a new mantle which usually settles down after a while :thumbup:

    **edit** check the air tubes and other parts for tightness?
     
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    Yes, Juliands - that's the one! Yeah the first picture is one of those. When I first got it I took it apart, cleaned the swarf out and reassembled, nipping up all the fittings with a pair of pliers cushioned by a rag.

    The second, now working one I've realised is a genuine Tilley one from the 1990s that came on a cheap unused lamp I picked up. I fitted an old set of screw type air tubes. Hopefully I can play around with the Juliands one - it looks much nicer with the taller knurled dome on a table lamp.

    Now everything has been handled a lot of times and is well sorted up I have a lot of cleaning to do all over again! Hopefully one day i can pick up a nice original table lamp rather than this one made up of a mix of parts. Hopefully at some point I'll find a nice shade too, but they seem to be hard to come by now.
     
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    At least it now works!
     

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    It may be worth speaking to Julian about the burner ? I have always found him helpful

    *Moncrieff used to do a reproduction shade? I got one a while ago now and thought they looked the part?

    pb

    * John Moncrieff Limited (available on ebay)
     
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    I've got one of those shades, and I've had a problem keeping the shade level, but with a bit of lateral thinking I came up with this solution.! :-k
     
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    Good progress.:thumbup:
     

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