Which Coleman is this?

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  1. James

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    I asked at CCF forum and the conclusion was it was either a 242K or a 247. Dated 1936 and Made in Canada. Somebody has bodged an R55 generator onto it at some point which is a bit of a shame.

    The preheater tray is the type commonly found on the 242K but it doesn't have the lighting slit with the slide.

    Worth trying to restore do you think?

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  2. itsawhalefish

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    I think you should just send it over to me :mrgreen:
     
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    Who cares it still looks great :mrgreen: 8) :thumbup: , just go for it 8) :D :thumbup:

    Stu :D :thumbup:
     
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    Looks like someone has screwed a hex head bolt into where the jet needle control goes, if so the threads are damaged and the fuel control is junk. As I recall the 242K has a specific type of cast burner head, different from the 242A gasoline. Neil M. was looking for that era of fuel control wheel for a 242K though, maybe message him about it.
     
  5. James

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    I suppose I could restore it with a valve assembly from a 200A and a 201 generator and I would be left with a spare R55 generator as a bonus :)

    Edit: Here's what the burner looks like:

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  6. Mackburner

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    That main control does look like the one from a 242K. It is unique to that model and I have been wanting one for years. Not a big deal as I have the rest of the lamp in pretty good condition. However it does confirm what this lantern was before it got customised. Great shame but I guess many years ago some user did what he had to in order to make his lamp live again. ::Neil::
     
  7. James

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    Well someone on CCF has posted a picture of what they say is a 247 with the same style of control wheel so now I am confused :-s

    I think you're right about it being a 242K as I read somewhere that the pricker control on this model was prone to snapping off and that would explain why it was fettled this way.
     
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    Well I don't always get it right and these lanterns are difficult because there seems to have been a change over period when 242K sort of morphed into 247. On balance I think that control shows it to be a 242K. Problem is the catalogues don't help much and then there is the problem of minor differences between Wichita and Toronto product. ::Neil::
     
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    Hi James, while checking some other models this afternoon I had a look for 1930's 247 parts. If you need any to get this one rebuilt I have some of each, bail, collar, fuel control etc. Send a mail if you need these.

    cheers, Ken
     
  10. James

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    I removed the bolt and fitted a jet cleaner lever that I removed from a 200A valve assembly. In spite of the threads being damaged it seemed to screw in place okay. I also fitted a 201 generator.

    It seems to be running reasonably well, but the flame is a little yellow. The mantle I am using is too large for this lamp, which might have something to do with it.

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    Hello James, it's great to see it working! :thumbup: :clap: :clap: :thumbup:
     

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