I am thinking I have a 134a ? the date numbers on the bottom are 7-8. I can't find a lot of info on this. I bought this at a flea market, thinking it looked cool, and didn't know what I had. I would like to get it back working, and I know it is missing a few parts. I am not sure on how to get started... any help? I am a newbie at this also, I remember having a coleman lamp when we went camping as a kid. My father-in-law gave me his dads lantern and stove. So this is how this is getting started. lol. I bought 3 lamps and 1 single burner stove at the flea market for 30.00. Thank you ahead for the help, and this is a great looking fourmn!!!
Hello and welcome aboard! You did very well at the market and I reckon that you have the model number correct. This lamp is pressurised by a separate pump, so you need to get one, they are listed on Ebay often, you will also need a shade carrier, they are also listed on Ebay. The link below shows a restored 134-A, Jeff. http://0flo.com/index.php?threads/1273
Dana: There are several of the separate pumps on American e-Bay right now. They appear fairly regularly, and run $15US +. You will need a glass shade; I recommend white for the warm, pleasant light. We used one for 8+ days in the aftermath of the storm here in NJ. I was really impressed with the quality of the light. nThe heat was a plus, too. Paul
Looks like you will also need a generator. This spreadsheet should tell you which one you need: http://light.papo-art.com/tech-n-info/Coleman_technical/ColemanGenerators/Generator%20List%20Lanterns%20Feb%2020%202009.htm
Hi Dana, Is your lamp marked as a model 134 on the lamp anywhere? I'm thinking that your lamp might be a model 143. The 134 was a match lighting lamp and looking at the burner on your lamp it looks like an instant light (based on the directions on the valve knob). Of course someone could have changed the burner. The 143 was an instant light with an ivory font with gold trim, colors that are similar to your lamp (the handle for sure). Coleman models were difficult to determine sometimes as they did not always have the model number on the lamps or the decal has worn off (the Canadian Colemans seemed to be stamped on the bottom). The color of the lamp was sometimes the deciding factor. BTW, are there a couple of numbers stamped into the bottom of the font? If so, we can date your lantern. This is of no great concern, other than knowing how to properly light the lamp. With a bit of clean up and some parts, you will have an excellent lamp. These are not hard to get up and running. This post [url=http://0flo.com/index.php?threads/4307 shows a couple of glass shade holder options as previously mentioned. Several of these are on Ebay right now. If you want to go with a parchment shade, then you'll need a glass mantle protector. Check this post [url=http://0flo.com/index.php?threads/3974 for more information. Keep us posted on your progress. Dan
Wow!!! so much help!!!! Honestly I am not sure what it is 100%. Here is what the bottom of the lamp states- The sunshine of the night, made in the USA coleman lantern and stove company, witicha KS. 7 on left 8 on the right and a bunch of patent numbers- Looking at the base closely is looks like at one point it may have a gold/copper trim? another question- what about the paint? it is in rough shape, thankfully no rust on the tank (well probably because it is copper), lol, Would I want to repaint it? or leave it? This is sooo cool, and I do really really appreciate the help!!! I will keep everyone up on the progress,
Hello Dana. Here a picture of two 143's , one unrestored, one restored. The pleated shade is self-made, the other one is from a shopping mall. Here are some more pics (half way down the page).
Hi Dana, Based on Erwin's pictures and the gold trim on your lamp, I'd say it's a 143 built on August (8) of 1937 (7). Painting a lamp is a personal choice. If you had a rare and valuable lamp, you may think twice. However, these are quite common and I wouldn't hesitate on refinishing it. It will look fabulous with a new coat of paint and some new gold trim. The tank on your lamp is brass, but the base should be steel (check it with a magnet). The lack of rust on the bottom of the lamp tank is normal, it's the rust that may be inside on the the tank bottom that is a potential problem. Erwin, that's a very nice pleated shade and looks great on the lamp. May I ask you for the diameters of the upper and lower rings, as well as the length of the side? Where did you get the frame and shade material? And one more thing, after you refinish the lamp, you can add the original decal, available from Old Coleman Parts here. Dan
Hello. I was curious about the model of the lamp and have checked Terry's site again. There is a model 134A on his site as well (almost half way down). However, I can't distinguish the two models just from looking but the remains of the paint on Dana's lamp might indicate a model 143.... Dan, I've checked the measurements again: Upper dia: 8", lower dia 10", height 8 1/4". I bought the rings from a DIY shop. The (thick) paper was just folded in zig-zag and sewed onto the rings. The finials are standard Coleman parts and I've also added a decal. Here are some more pics of the rings. There is a complete description of how to calculate and make a shade on my website if you're interested. Erwin.
Hi Erwin, The 134 is a match light having a different burner valve as it has no F/A tube. The 143 has an Instant Lite valve and F/A tube. The are both Roto burners and use the same generator. Below is a picture of a 129 kerosene lamp (which uses the same valve as the 134) and a 133 gas lamp which uses the same set up as a 143. The most noticeable difference is in the knobs. Other than the colors, shades and the meths cup, I'm not sure of what the difference is between the 133 and 143 and 129 and 134. BTW, the Coleman 1937 Parts Catalog has the schematics of all the above lamps. Thanks for the measurements. Your web site is fantastic and your directions and calculations for making a shade are the best I've seen. I would love to make a "correct" parchment shade for my 133 as you have done for your 130. Dan
Very nice!!! I hope one day mine can look like that- lol.... The bottom is steel, and I will have to get my boroscope to see if it has rust, hopefully not. I have taken a couple of more close up pics, I am thinking it may be a 143... But of course I am very very new to this, and learning quite a bit. I really appreciate the help!!! pics are next.. Thank for everyones help!!!
