1936 Primus 1050

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  1. Carlsson

    Carlsson Sweden Admin/Founder Member

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    A 300 CP, two mantle petrol lantern.

    It uses a little preheating torch which gives a very soft and gentle flame, but a petrol lantern doesn't need more.
    Though similar to the Coleman R55, the Primus vapouriser is of a bit sturdier construction, so it needs a tad bit more preheating.

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  2. Nils Stephenson

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    Nice looking lantern Christer. It looks to be in good condition.

    I've always wondered about the 1050 model compared to the 1051. The catalogues say that the 1050 had a vapouriser without a cleaning needle, but I've never seen one. Every 1050 I've seen has a '1051' type of vapouriser. Anyone seen one without a cleaning needle?

    What mantles do you use? I havn't found any that work perfectly and usually end up with a yellowish light.
     
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    Yes, it's strange about the cleaning needle.
    The bottomplate has an oval hole where the extension wire for the cleaning needle go out, so it looks like it was meant for this vapouriser.
    But on the other hand that oval hole is not really in the best position for this... it's much better positioned on the 1051 where it is closer to the center, and thus better positioned under the vapourisers cleaning needle mechanism.
    Oh, well...

    I have forgotten which mantles I used since it was so long ago I fitted them. It must have been more than five years now, but it was atleast something meant for two-mantle Colemans. I think they were #21 from some new manufacturing. Those that came in a soft green plastic bag with two socks in each.
    I'm not so happy with the liht either. Just as you say it's a bit on the yellowish side, but not so much that I bother. But it's not as bright as I would expect it to be.

    I prefer yellow light in lamps meant for indoor use, but a lantern shall give as bright and white light as possible since it's meant as a working light.
    I was actually intending on trying a couple of Peerless 2C-HG on this lantern tonight, so I might come back with the result.
     
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    These lamps runn cool with Coleman mantles. They need a rounder type that sits closer to the generator. The generator fitter is the same as a Coleman so you can fit and use a Coleman R55 but it will not work with long narrow mantles. ::Neil::
     
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    My favorit lamp,

    have several of these.

    All Coleman spares fit
     
  6. Carlsson

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    Oh, it works with the coleman mantles, and it keep on running for hours without problems.
    If it ran cool, I would rather expect it to start burning bad after a while, not just to affect the colour of the light.

    But I actually did test with the Peerless just after I said it above, and the lantern performed much brighter.
    Peerless is a bit rounder than Coleman, so the mantles come some mm. closer to the vapouriser. Perhaps that's part of the effect, but they generally is a bit brighter nevertheless, so it's hard to tell if it was the "roundness" that did it here, or just simply the different composition of the chemicals and fabric.
     
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    Is there no differences between the 1050 and 1051 beside the stamp and the saying about the cleaning needle then?

    Where they made side by side the same years?

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  8. Nils Stephenson

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    That about sums it up. The only difference mentioned in the catalogues is the vapouriser. As mentioned, I have never seen a 1050 vapouriser, they have all been fitted with the 1051 type.

    The 1050 is listed in a 1937 catalogue but not in 1938. The latest example I have seen is from 1936. The 1051 continued to be produced until 1950.
     
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    Yes they do work OK with Coleman mantles but I discovered that Coleman generators will fit these and work OK. Both R55 and Q99s fit but neither will run with Coleman mantles. Once I fitted round shaped mantles the Coleman generators worked well. The Primus generators are better as you might expect but a rounder mantle than Coleman is to be prefered. ::Neil::
     
  10. Michael Benner

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    I Can't find anything on the Internet about this lamp. You write that the 1050 is listed in a catalogue. Is there a file from this catalogue?

    Freundliche Grüße,
    Michael
     
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  11. Nils Stephenson

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    This catalogue in the reference library mentions it. They were mentioned in most catalogues from the first half of the 1930s.
     
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    Thank you very much!!!
     

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