I got these two globes many moons ago from a collector called Greg McCourt of Dover, Kent. Greg and I exchanged emails a few times and did a few deals over the years - mainly Bialaddin/Vapalux stuff. However, I haven't heard from him for the last 2-3 years. Anybody know him or heard anything of him? Anyway, Greg thought these were Tilley but neither of us knew which model they belonged to. I showed them to Mick (Emm) when he was up here and he made a suggestion but I can't remember now what make and model it was. They're 97 mm tall and 85mm in diameter with 4 mica panels. Any ideas anybody..?
Ray, has that globe got the three horizontal slots at 120 degree spacing? I don't think I've an AL15 here at the moment to have a look at, but your globe seems to have been cut to fit over the two air tubes, possibly...
It certainly has one "slot" where the burner spigot fits, there are two "cut outs" for the burner arms. I wil have a look tomorrow an let you know.
Hi Dave ! I remember having the conversation at your house. Here is my answer PL54 hopefully photocopies photographed show the assistant in the house lighting the tilleys ! Notice left side of picture vitrosil glass not got wire cage holding in the glass ! Look at my PL53 hood it has three small adjustable bolts to hold the glass in place or a mica tube just like the ones at top of this page ! Early thirties. ...mick
Makes sense. I doubt they were for an AL15 as that lamp has two round burner tubes which would not fit the rectangular slots and anyway those slots are at equal angles but the three holes and slot on an AL15 mica are not equal. As a method of locating an mica in a PL52 or 54 hood they would be right. An interesting find and pretty rtare I guess. ::Neil::
Thanks Neil ! I was lucky to pick up two of these hoods together at an Antique fair for £15 with their bases but missing their stone guards. I'll list them properly under PL53's eventually. Hope this gives you at least one option so far Dave ! ...mick
Mick. Won't be PL53 with mica. Besides I guess they are old enough to pre date PL53 so they are probably PL52 anyway don't you think? When does PL53 first appear? ::Neil::
Hi Neil ! I was just using a collective term when I said I'd list these lamps I found in PL53 section of Tilley lamp gallery ! How ever you just asked about the earlist PL53 sighting I have and to my surprise I can put up a listing in 1924 for PL53 with glass globe. Mica could be different. Don't go to bed just yet I'm going to post again on here in min or two ! ...mick
Hi ! Neil or Dave ! These mica tubes don't fit PL52 or HL 16 Hurricane lamp . BUT !! It could fit ML94 I've got this lamp conversion idea going back to 1923 the gallery diameter looks to be fairly narrow so maybe this could be why the mica globes exist ! Neil's cat on Tilley 1930 still shows this conversion idea using mica tube.I expect it went all through the 30's as well ! ...mick
Hmm. Yes still just up. Interesting now we look at those images they might well be very early and for the ML lamps and early PL types. Mind you I have never seen one of thoise early lamps or the galleries so that wouold be a hard call for me to make. I think you may well be right here though. ::Neil::
Hi mick intresting these globes now that early TL14 i have has the early gallery which is 88mm diameter so these would fit quite well. 1924 TILLEY TL 14 Now also why the big square holes just for a little screws? Now on this lamp the burner tubes differ from most we see being made up of "bits" not like the burners we see now so dave how big are those slots? the diameter of the tubes is 8mm would they fit? Also if made to fit this gallery i know we cannot see it but its a good bet they may have been used on this indoor donut from 1924!! as well as the ML 94s whats the view on this ? cheers pete
The slots are 12.5mm long with slightly curved ends, so a half-inch in old money. They're only 5.5mm top-to-bottom so they wouldn't accept an air-tube. However, very late on last night, it struck me that these globes may fit a table lamp gallery, so I tried one on the first lamp that came to hand:- Perfect fit!
Edited my post above with the size of the slots... It's fitted on the globe support pins, Pete, which hold it securely - looks like they were meant to go together (which could be just a coincidence, of course) but suggests they're definitely Tilley. There's so little corrosion on the metal parts, I'd have said they were in remarkable condition for the 1960s, never mind the 1920s...
