Ozarkchef Mc Graw Edison Model 681004

It is good twice in one lantern.

Regards,Motoshi

 

I just recently found this lantern on ebay at a Buy It Now. I am expecting it to show up in the mail tomorrow. I have not seen very many of these, and all in pictures. I think 4 now.



How do you like this lantern/stove combo Motoshi?

 

I also have one of these but mine does not have the case or the wire cooker frame part. I have always thought these were more of a sales gimmick than a serious utility tool. The idea is you only need one lamp/stove of course but then if you want light then you can't cook. So after dark you don't get a coffee. This one is not well designed either because if you use it as a stove then you have burnt in mantles on the burner to keep safe somewhere and then it is difficult to get the lamp burner back on the generatror without damaging the mantles. Interesting though and several companies did more or less the same thing. Nice to see the case which gives the name as I had not seen that before and did not know what the combo was called. ::Neil::

 

Neil...Certainly good points you make of the sales gimmick/novelty factor. I think that these McGraw Edison lantern stoves actually having a stove burner attachment make them more stove worthy than the type of system like AGM-King Seely-Thermos KL2 Kookllite or even just the top attachment like "Hobo Stove", that relied on the heat emitting upwards from the burning mantles of a lantern. But yes, one may just as well carry a lantern and a stove to function without inconvenience or interruption.

 

Yes this one is worse than most. I had trouble re fitting the burners after running the stove and that was at home on my cooker in the kitchen. How you could keep the mantles safe in a camp environment and then refit when it is starting to get dark and hard to see well enough to guide the burne over the generator beats me. ::Neil::

 

If I decide to venture into the woods for some camping and take this gadget along, I will make sure that I pack a stove as well

 

I can never see the problem anyway. I use a 2 ton rucksac which will carry a half ton load or more as well as hauling half a house behind it so why would anyone want to cut down on the weight of a stove and maybe three or four lamps? ::Neil::

 

uhmm...because Neil is not everyone?

I dunno?

 

Yes well its an age thing I guess. Up to around 1992 I used tents a lot. Spent years with Scouts so I am very familiar with the process. However since I started to display lamps I have used a caravan and now there is no way my new young Lady will consider canvas so I am back to the 2 ton rucksac. Mind you with Scouts it was about the same because I was mostly managing a large group so we had lots of transport and capacity to carry lots of surplus gear such as FL6s and the like. Comfort camping if you like. ::Neil::

 

Yes, I hear you on the comfort camping and the age thing. It is not like it used to be. Besides, those FL6's take up quite a lot of space

Glenn

 

We wish to express our gratitude for the comments of the great people.
I do not think about this lantern as for practical use. Both the stove and the lantern play minds that can be used are interesting.

Regards,Motoshi

 

Arigato Motoshi! Your input as an owner of this lantern is much appreciated

Glenn

 

I wish to update. The Ozark Chef lantern Stove Combo that I purchased on ebay was delivered today. I decided to rebuild the pump plunger with the guts of an old Kamplite stove plunger. The plunger that was on this stove is a sloppy rubber O-ring cheapo and did not work worth beans. It has a leather pump cup now and works ideally. This lantern stove combo came with original paperwork and parts list. I initially thought that this was built in late 1960's early 1970's and after looking at the model # 681004 and all part #'s start with 68 and the decal has a # that starts with 68 and on the paperwork it has what could be a date with 68 in it. I would take a good guess that it was made in 1968. The case is made by Lantern Caddy Company., Salt Lake City, Utah.
After rebuilding the pump mechanism I went to getting the thing fired up and I tell you I am impressed how both the lantern and the stove burn. Both features performed really well. I will add the pictures that I took of my unit.

Enjoy!

Glenn

 

Hi Glenn.
Congratulations. reach the lantern.
The play mind is interesting though it is a doubt whether the lantern and the stove become practical use.

Regards,Motoshi

 

Hi Motoshi,

Yes, this is definitely a unit that will take up more shelf space. I like owning it because I am sure that it was short lived and very low production numbers. I like it.

Arigato!

Glenn

 

I performed a test with a cup & 1/2 of water in a sauce pan. It took 3.5 minutes to boil on this stove. Pretty good

Glenn

 

wow ;what luck as i just traded a guy for one of these lanten/stove and everything came with it ;the thing is i cant get it pump very well;once i do all i get is air coming thur the generator seems not enough pressure to push the fuel up ;i did try to switch the 0 ring and not paying attention there were 4 very small washer which im not sure how they set back on the thing'if anyone would had a picture showing them that would be great ;i thought of trying a leather instead of the 0 ring but dont have any that small ;again any suggestions would be great; it also came with the globe crack free and no chips plus a shield ;cant wait to try it out but due to the pump its going to be awhile ;thanks everyone and i sure hope to hear from someone who might have any ideas and how the small washer go on;

 

darn i was hoping by now some one who has the same item would let me know how those 5 very small washer go back on the pump as i have tried so many different ways i still cant get the thing to pressurize/even if i knew the correct size of the 0 ring would be great as i have tried a few some are to small others seem to fit but they get pinched ;i was able to get the burners to light just a few seconds but went out due to not enough pressure;this thing is neat and i sure would like to see it glow plus try the stove;im so used to the colemans and akrons and this sure is a hair puller and that i dont have much left ;if it comes down to just a show piece well what can i do ;thanks everyone and i look forward to a reply of some sort neil where are you ;

 

You need to lose the O ring set up and fit a leather pump washer. ::Neil::

 

Did it now? That is a set of paper I have never seen, any chance of a few scans please. ::Neil::

 

thanks neil i have tried a few cups but just a tad to big less i try to shave them down a little;in time i will figure this thing out ;thanks again

 

neil i was wondering you have had the time to check the pump on yours as it stand now im still not having much luck even with a leather off a torch that fit alright but seems the only thing that comes up thur the gen is air it just wont build air like most lanterns ;this sure is a hair puller and that i dont have much left;do let me know once you get the time to reply back dean

 

Not even found the lamp yet. Buried in the pile somewhere and I have not had time to go hunting. ::Neil::

 

thats fine neil;i know a guy i deal with and he has the same combo;hes going to send me the instructions plus the parts list and a gasket for the pump ;hope things go well ;i will keep you posted on what happens ;if not well a show item; thanks again anyways ;dean

 

OK I found my lamp again and have looked at the pump. This combined pump/filler was obviously designed by an idiot because it is not really user serviceable. The pump is easy enough because with rod and leather it is like any other lamp. The check valve is another matter. It works like the Thermos valves with a spring loaded plunger and O ring which pushes out from the botton of the tube but this one can't be serviced unlike the Thermos which can be pushed back and a new O ring inserted. This one pushes out OK but you can't see the O ring so you can't remove the old one and replace because it is buried too deep in the unit. The check valve unit is crimped in place. There is a white metal ring held down with four crimps in the brass outer ring. You will have to cut these crimps to remove the valve and then it will dismantle and you can replace the O ring before reassembly which will involve re crimping the assembly in place. Not all that difficult to do but you can't test the valve before crimping it so it can get tedious if the replacement O ring leaks and you need to try again.

The main pump tube is aluminium and the check valve unit is a brass fitting secured to the end of the tube. I wondered if this brass fitting was screwed in place but mine won't unscrew. I don't know if brass and aluminium can be soldered together but given the melt point of aluminium I doubt it. However because of this low melt temp I don't dare take a blow torch to the unit to see if it will free off. ::Neil::

 

neil;thanks so much for the im put so really this one is junk as theres no way to repair it or change the ring iside as you mentioned being crimped ;i have tried soaking the thing but still no luck ;the torch yes i thought looking at the thing a little heat would would help loosen the end but found out that wasnt going to work ;what i figure is the so called check valve is stuck it wont close enough to allow the fuel to stay in the tank;thats why the tube fills up which isnt correct and i mean did it leak out ;not safe thats for sure ;the thing of finding one of those is like looking for a needle in a hay barn;yep i thought the same if i could remove the valve and change the ring plus check the spring as they should be one there as to make it go back and forth but the way its designed no way ;least i was able to get the stove part to lite that was a plus;i did have a tube with that same set up in a torch i had least i think thats where it came from but that was a little to short anyways;which i dont have any more as i took all my junk to the junk yard some time back and made a few bucks ;im not sure if anything else will work ;i do have a torch that i did try the pump and it seemed to work but the the threads were different to tighten down on the end ;i do have a thermo lantern but not sure if that would work either;so again back to square one and yes i agree its a really bad set up like with the akrons now we know why they didnt last on the market;if you have any other ideas i sure would appreciate it again if not it will be a show item; thanks so much for the reply and the help ;and yes while i did try the torch thing thinking it might help take that part;i noticed around the tube it was starting to bubble meaning the 0 ring inside so i stopped didnt want to destroy it any more than it is now;but i thought heck it just might come off seems i was wrong ;again thanks ;have a great day ;dean

 

In cases like this you have to fettle in a different way. The existing correct pump will not work and can't be easily fixed so you make a filler/inlet valve cap with a Schrader Valve so you can run the lamp and put the correct pump back for display. In fact with this one you can probably take the existing cap and insert a drilled through brass bolt through the hole with a small O ring seal and then tap a thread to the Schrader valve tube so you can screw the assembly together which will seal it to the filler cap but allow removal to switch back to the original for display.

Of course if you can find a cap with the right thread you can just solder a Schrader valve direct and have a second filler cap for running the beast. ::Neil::

 

neil again thank you for the advise ;the thing is really im really no good at doing things as you mentioned 'so it seems it will be just a show item even if i cant get it to fire up'again now we both agree these are like a akron and why the companies didnt ;last;plus the fact there arent to many of these around any longer ;i would be more than willing to ship the tube and pump to you if you have the time to repair it so maybe once i can try the darn thing out than on the shelve ;again thanks so much for all the information and the help;would you be interested in the bucket;as really i have no need for it and no place to store it ;the combo will go on the shelve with my other rare items; have a great day ;dean

 

Dean. OK I will have a think about this and see if I can maybe make the adaptor you need. Not sure I have all the bits here but I might so leave this with me and I will get back to you. ::Neil::

 

thanks my friend ;keep me posted