Wizard No. 60

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  1. astroboy

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    This is the Wizard lamp I have, don't know anything about it but here's a few shots anyway.
    Dave.
     
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    Well that Lamp certainly is a wonder to behold, if anything it just shows the ingenuity of the Australian Farmer.

    The Burner / Shroud is an Australian Wizard System Light #55. The same unit is on their #56 & #58. It just depends on their application.

    The Valve appears to be a modified joiner [ Yorkshire Fitting ] for 1/2 in copper tube, all this is cobbled together with the same Yorkshire fittings and I would hazard a guess 1/2 inch copper tubing.

    The Fount is familiar but I am not going to guess at that.

    Definitely not Wizard but a hybrid of parts.

    Do not let this discourage you from collecting. I have bought several hybrids over the years. I even bought an R1 Fount that had been converted into a stove. Call it a learning curve, if it looks home made it generally is.

    Colin
     
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    Nice odd lamp Dave. Probably the No.60 Wizard Table lamp. This attached catalogue image comes from a 1925 Wizard catalogue I got from Neil, originally from Albert White.

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    Hi Dave & Conny,

    Still not convinced, I think it started out as #60 but if you have a look at the valve side of lamp it is asymmetrical with no joiners. Dave's is sweeping curves and right angles with joiners.

    Perhaps if Dave can supply pictures of the joiners and valve area it would give a better indication.

    The valve is definately a " Yorkshire Fitting" as it is known in Australia. I have several joiners in my plumbing box that are the same.

    Could be wrong but not the same Lamp as posted as #60.

    On second perusal the valve in Conny's picture appears to be 90 degrees different from Dave's Lamp.

    Colin
     
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    Well I don't know Colin after all it is a sketch so it may not show the detail you are refering to but it looks pretty close to a match to me, but i'm no expert :content:
     
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    Colin and Dave.
    You know what we Aussies are like the lamp proberly got broken at one stage and the handy man repaired it to look the same etc .
    Bob .
     
  8. Colin M

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    True it is only a sketch, but it is a sketch out of a sales catalogue, given that it is a product already on the market it it doesn't gell.

    Bob, you and I both have come across discrepancies and are well aware of what's out there.

    Being a Lamping Forum we owe it to other Members / Viewers to offer a true representation of Pressure Lamps through the ages. Unless proven otherwise we can only go on the information on hand.

    To me this is not a true representation at this stage of the Wizard #60, a likeness yes.

    I might as well go out and spray all my Coleman's Mustard Yellow and sell them as Gold Bonds.

    Colin
     
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    Hard call this. We have only the one Wizard catalogue and that just gives us a snapshot of what they were selling that year. This is a common problem with rare paper because we don't know what earlier or later variations there might have been. So here we have a lamp that sort of appears to be a Wizard 60. I missed that too so slap my wrist. Whatever, Colin is right and the lamp is not correct according to the paper we have. Factory made or a home made repair job? We will possibly never know. A few more turning up the same might convince us it is correct but for now it can only be a "Maybe". Looks to be well done but then some guys can do superb work at home as some of our master fettlers can. So for now I will list it as a Possible 60. ::Neil::
     
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    My friend Marko and I have giggled over this topic a few times over the years. We have agreed with you that it isn't very hard to see that the lamp is pretty much a match to the illustration aside from coming to grief at some point in its existence and the cure (repair) has been almost worse than the disease.

    It looks to me that the tube between the valve and the hanger came to grief and perhaps split and the owner has fashioned a replacement tube as best he could.

    One other thought I had was, the owner wished the lamp head to be pushed forward more, out in front of the fount not so much directly over it. So, it may have been a deliberate plan to alter the lamp that was less than successful from an aesthetic point of view.

    Anyway, Marko wanted to show his example, so here it is.

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  11. Tony Press

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    I can add another photo of an Australian Wizard No. 60 table lamp, so I think we should conclude that the lamp of @astroboy is indeed a Wizard No. 60.

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    Cheers

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