821 Baby Petromax

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  1. Glenn

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    I believe that this 821 "Baby" is a Pre WWII. However, I profess that I am no expert on the European lanterns. I believe it is 150CP. This lantern was hardly recognizable when I found it in a box at the flea market. It was all bent up, the ventilator totally crushed in. The generator/vaporizer is not a helicoil like most. It's logo has the E inside the G. The bottom of the fount is stamped 1130. The gage has a mica window. The pressure release screw has been removed and the hole brazed over on the fill cap. The Valve handle was missing when found and I fitted a replacement for looks. I have not run this lantern. The pricker needle is missing. The globe is a replacement I fit on it. Pictures tell it. I would like the Giant Euro Minds to figure this one out...pinpoint age and any other info. Thanks all!

    Glenn

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  2. Tive

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    The date 11 30 ( november 1930 )seems to be just about right, and that would explain to me were optimus got their early vent design from, looks exactly like my circa 1931-35 Optimus 200
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  3. Glenn

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    Hi Frederik,

    Well I surely did not think that posting my mystery would solve yours. Whatta ya know! ;)

    Thanks for your input


    Glenn
     
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    And solved my mistery too. I bought a couple of years ago a Petromax 822 with the same hood and ventilator and at that time I guessed that it came from an Optimus. Now I will to restore it and complete the lamp with its original top. Thank you very much and congratulations for the restoration.
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  5. Glenn

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    Great Juan....This is how we evolve as lamp heads

    Glenn :D/
     
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    It's actually not so surprising. The first Optimus lanterns were direct copies of the Petromax lanterns of the time. I believe this was about 1930 or 31. The first Optimus lanterns were even numbered 821 and 826, but this only lasted a year before they changed the numbers to 200 and 300 respectively. The only difference I can see from this 821 is that the Optimus lanterns always had the Preston coil offset as we know them today.
     
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  7. Tive

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    Good conversation fellows !
    Now i'm even closer to set at date on my 827, with all facts i have gather so far, i would say it was manufactured between 1935 to 1939, it has the frist genertaion rapid heater, but nickel plated topvent and a fibre wheel, the 1936 catalogue shows plastic wheels and red tops on all rapids, so maybe it was manufactured in 1935 or so, hard to tell.

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  8. Petromax828

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    The Petromax 821 is truly a very good looking lamp. I would say the right size and proportions :)
     
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