coleman 214a 700 info

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  1. darrensmith

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    hi all newbbie here
    i have been planning on switching from gas to petrol for some time now and i have been handed a coleman 214a700 in as new condition with hard case. any help or info on the lamp or where i can get instructions, age of lamp ect.
    if you need a pic just ask.
    thx in advance.
     
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    Coleman 214A is a kero lamp although it will probably be safe to run on petrol but NOT unleaded as that will clog the generator. They were made for some time. I believe from around 1980 to 2000 but there will be a date stamp in the base plate. I don't have a set of instructions for this model so if anyone does then I would be interested in a copy as well please.

    Easy enough to fire up. Close valve and pump. Preheat with alcohol and after maybe a minute open the valve. Simples.

    ::Neil::
     
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    I have one of the 214C700, if this is of interest.
     
  4. darrensmith

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    thx for the reply
    can i pick up kero at a camp shop. as well as the pre warm fluid.
    thx
     
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    Welcome aboard! :thumbup:
     
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    Here are online instructions from the Coleman Company for the 214C which will work for the 214A as the two lanterns are almost identical.

    http://r1.coleman.com/Manuals/214C700.pdf
     
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    thank you for the link.
    what sort of petrol will work in this its been posted that not to use unleaded but will lead replacement work.
    thx in advance
    not sure where i can buy kero in the uk..
     
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    Hi darrensmith, welcome on board!
    In the UK kerosene is known as paraffin, you should be able to find some in most D-I-Y shops, sometimes it can be bought "at the pump". There have been posts with addresses where to get it at reasonable prices. When Neil says not to use unleaded, I guess he means you are better off to use "white gas" (undoped petrol). One can use panel wipe (not the water based stuff) or Aspen4 with good results.

    Best regards,

    Wim
     
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    Aspen is just one specific brand.
    Any generic alkylate petrol will do, and is generally cheaper.
     
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    hi thanks for all your help, ive been a bit thick and just worked out that kero is just paraffin in the uk...duh.. can be bought in most garden centers for green house heaters ect... so my next question is the pre warming fluid. anyone suggest a brand in the uk, source ect. can this be picked up at campshops?
    youre all being so helpfull, this is a great forum
     
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    they sell this at b&q
    paraffin

    take it this will be fine?
     
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    also the mantle i think is a #21 i have found these on ebay am i right in thinking these are the right ones.
    mantle
     
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    Paraffin can be used as fuel for the lamp but not for pre-heating. For pre-heating you need to use methylated spirits. B&Q also sell "La Hacienda" bio-ethanol in 2L containers that can be used as a pre-heat fuel.
     
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    thx for all your help just waiting for someone to confirm the mantles and im all set
     
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    Looking in the instruction manual link that Flygt provided in a reply above and the Coleman mantle chart here , the 21A (21) is the recommended mantle.

    Dan
     
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    It's as Dan says. The 21A is the recommended.
    You can also go for the Peerless brand, and I think 2C-HG is the equivalence of 21A.
    I would recommend that. I really like the Peerless mantles.

    Otherwise any mantle in the span 250-400 will do the trick decently, be it if it's called Optimus, Hippolito, Anchor, Luxor or what not...

    Probably a 500 too. It's generally not as picky as people like to think, as long as you don't get a too small mantle.
     
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    This post reminded me of the saying, attributed to George Bernard Shaw, that the United States and Great Britain were two countries divided by a common language:

    When I read the original post I thought (in Australian english) that he was moving from butane or liquid petroleum gas ("gas" in Australian) to gasoline ("petrol" in Australian).

    Paraffin = "kerosene" in Australian (in Australian english paraffin was used to describe a wax "paraffin wax").

    ... And then there is the European use of "petrol"...

    I wonder how many lampies and stovies have blown themselves up messing with volatile gasoline in a kero lamp or stove?...

    Has anyone put together a glossary of these terms explaining how not to get lost in translation? If not I'd be happy to take on the task...
     
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    I actually think most English speaking (or "English language learned") people outside Britain and their former colonies has a pretty good grasp about the situation about these nomenclatures.
    It seems to be a bigger problem within your own country, and your former colonies... :lol:

    As an example even I have always known that the people down under has adopted much of the US way of name of the fuels we discuss here, and also some other stuff not related, while it looks like many Brits or Americans actually don't know it. :doh:
     
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    Ahhh, but not entirely. We don't use gas to mean gasoline (the stuff you put in motorcars): for that we use "petrol" derived from "petroleum spirit". Then, for instance, we use "spirit" in relation to alcohol (as in "methylated spirits" = methyl alcohol).

    It's pretty cross-cultural down here: we would object very strongly to the suggestion that we adopt "American" as our preferred form of English...
     
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    This is a rather good one: International Fuel Names

    Dan
     
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    That is an excellent glossary.
     
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    oh no what have i started.
    can someone hit the mantles link and give me a yes or a no please.
    all the best
     
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    Sorry...
     
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    Didn't the above two replies help?

    Dan
     
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    :-s :? As well as that, I clicked the link above and the vendor says the mantles he's selling are suitable for the 214... :whistle:
     
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    Yes those mantles will be fine.
     

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