Seen in brocante in France

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  1. redspeedster United Kingdom

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    Hi
    Saw this in a brocante in France, no idea what it is. Thought I would post an image here.

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  2. James

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    It's a Unic wall lamp. There are a few listed in the gallery [url=http://0flo.com/index.php?threads/2304
     
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    yes Unic wall lamp
    the burner is mounted upside down and it is a bit expensive, but when you love :lol:
     
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    C'est un Unic No. 9 n'est ce pas?
     
  5. redspeedster United Kingdom

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    I Knew someone would know what it was. I wasn't tempted at all, didn't have the requisite beer vouchers.
    Had a lean foraging trip this year just this and some ropey/incomplete Pigeon lamps. :(
    I was nearly tempted by a Pigeon domestic meths stove but it had issues.
     
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    I don't think I have seen this one before. There are plenty of plain tank Unic 9s around. I know I have had three at least and I have seen a lot more but I don't believe ever with this decorated tank. Not perhaps worth the asking price but still a nice piece that wants preservation. ::Neil::
     
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    I assume it wouldn't run upside down like that so that's just a mistake mounting it that way?
     
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    The mantle is a soft floppy one-hole type so you couldn't burn it off or get it to inflate properly in the lamp as shown.

    It might just go with an upright rigid gas mantle but I don't suppose anyone's tried it...
     
  10. Michel

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    not an Unic 9 but almost the same. I think this fount is older than Unic 9.
    those lamps are only wall monted lamps, see the manometer and the inflating valve position on the above.
    karli have 2 of those, here :
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    You can see you good way of mounting.
     
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    I agree they are older. I had forgotten about those two Karli has. If he is right and they were bought in the 1920s then they may not even be Unic lamps. As we have no other evidence for make and model I have to list these as a earlier version of Unic model 9. That may not be correct but it does identify them for now at least. ::Neil::
     
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    Sorry Neil, They are the first model of the Unic 9 made ​​by E Brodier, Paris
    As i said in another topic about an unic 7, Brodier was a predecessor of G Haupois.
    What grieves me is that E. Brodier seems to have ceased its activity in 1909/1910 for the benefit of establishments "Lefebvre et Cie". I do not know when G Haupois could have started its own production, ended in 1968/70.

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    Yes I should have looked at that because I have this paper here. What I don't understand is the dates. The burner on these early Unic lamps has to be later than 1910 surely? From the design I would have thought at least 1920s or even later perhaps. I have reservations about a lamp company designing a burner in about 1907 of this sophistication and then not changing the design until after 1963. This is not impossible because Blanchard in England did just that but you have to admit that is rather unusuall. The other problem I have is that when the early ones do turn up they are almost invariably in pretty good condition. Better than we might expect from a 1910/11 survivor. I suspect that regardless of any buy out or take over in 1910 the Brodier company name lived on well beyond that date. ::Neil::
     
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    Yes Neil, I agree with you. I have the same problème with the modernism of the burners. The hole in time is important but perhaps this name "Unic lumiere" has been repurchased later or Brodier have sold only a part of his activity.

    I keep on searching
     
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    Well I am pretty sure the Brodier paper illustrating these lamps is later than 1920. The fact that they are showing hollow wire lamp heads is a clue that they are perhaps 1930s because little or no HW was being used by the 1950s and it was in serious decline by the 1940s. That is still maybe 20 years after Brodier are supposed to have sold out. Perhaps the family bought the company back at some stage. Good stuff and one reason I stay interested is because we know we don't know everything and there is always more evidence to be uncovered. ::Neil::
     

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