Lowest CP/HK laterns you know?

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  1. Weirdnerd

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    I have noticed that when I light the Petromax 829 lantern, the neighbors call the police thinking there is a UFO in my backyard (Joking here) and thus, I would like to know if there are some Petromax type lanterns other than the Baby, which reach absurd prices on the bay, of lower candlepower, say 150 to 250?... optimus/radius/primus/etc?....if possible post pictures so I can say ooh aah pretty!....

    Thanks in advance for the nice information ;)
     
  2. Will

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    I took this picture recently to show some of the smallest lanterns I have. The two lanterns on each side are for size reference.

    L-R: Coleman 200a (USA), Radius 101 (Sweden), Phoebus 615 (Austria), Turner 711 (USA), Coleman 242K (Canada).

    Will

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    Mackburner United Kingdom RIP - Founder Member

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    With a few exceptions all the small 100-150 cp lanterns are museum pieces and valued accordingly. Coleman make a 150cp gasoline lantern and Petromax a 150cp kero but I don't like either much. The Coleman because the control valve gland is suspect and the Petromax because it is made in Hong Kong and of questionable quality. ::Neil::
     
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    Neil, any thoughts on the Geniol 830 Rapid (150cp)? - a pretty little thing less than 30cm tall, but a bit modern and probably Far Eastern in origin. Quality seems decent enough though...
     
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    I find the Santrax 830 (read also Geniol and Petromax) to quite OK as far as quality and performance goes. You just don't trust it out of the box and check it thoroughly first. They seem to be sensitive to the quality of the kero and need pricking more often than others. My guess is that they just don't get hot enough and there is more carbon build up than in larger lamps.

    Another suggestion could be a 200cp lamp with a frosted glass.
     
  6. WimVe

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    The petromax 900 Baby series is one the small side too. I guess that it is 90Hk original.
    It is smaller then the 150cp px-style series. (jet and needles don't fit)
     
  7. Carlsson

    Carlsson Sweden Admin/Founder Member

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    Yes they all got smaller lanterns. But they are not all of the Petromax type.
    Is that so crucial? I would suggest that you consider other types aswell!

    Primus 991 is for instance only 200cp, and I really like that simple burner type much better than the Petromax style.
    You can see them here.

    The smaller Radius and Optimus are generally of Petromax type, though.
    Otherwise the "stove lamps" from Radius are really nice, but they aren't of Petromax style either. More of the same type as the Primus 991.
    Like .

    Skip the Petromax demand, and you will have a whole world of lanterns within the 150-250CP interval you ask for. ;) :lol:
     
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  8. Weirdnerd

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    I like the Primus too, I like Single mantle kerosene drinking lanterns. I was thinking on Petromax style because I am getting familiar with it, I like the preston loop, I saw the petromax 900 baby, but it is too expensive for my taste, I have heard good things about the old santrax lanterns, The Geniol 830 is almost perfect....now the hunt part is the where all the fun is.....

    The list seems to be taking form:

    Geniol 830
    Optimus 200
    Radius 101
    Phoebus 615
    Primus 991

    Now my problem is that to find those lanterns, I am on the wrong side of the pond.
     
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    Carlsson Sweden Admin/Founder Member

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    Ditmar made some really small ones too.
    The 581 is even smaller than the Petromax 900 little baby, but probably cost just as much so I guess they are out:
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  10. WimVe

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    Christer,

    You got me on that one. I totally forgot the Maximette although there is one standing right next to me.

    But the question was smaller in CP ...
    I guess that 100-150cp is the bottom, is it ?

    If you look at 250cp: I always say the AIDA 1250 is a very nice lantern.
     
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    Carlsson Sweden Admin/Founder Member

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    The span asked for was wide. 150-250, so there are a lot of suitable Petromax clones available.
    Especially in the 200-250 segment I think there are many not too expensive specimens. Like Optimus 200 and 1200.
     
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    Optimus lanterns cheap? I wish I lived near you sir!!
     
  13. Carlsson

    Carlsson Sweden Admin/Founder Member

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    Well... Cheapish. :lol:
     
  14. expat

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    :lol: I would love to find one for a sensible price...!

    I do prefer the low cp lanterns to the big ones!
     
  15. Weirdnerd

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    I have been oogling some Optimus lanterns on the evil bay, I don't know how 300 dollars is considered cheap for a used lantern?.....I may need to see some of those "boot sales" next time I go to Yurp.
     
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    A 200cp one went for ~£80 earlier - got comprehensibly outbid! :(
     
  17. Carlsson

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    I have never seen anyone here suggesting that 300 dollars should be cheap for an Optimus lantern.
    That's just a silly price. We are still talking about the regular 200 (1200). Not any other model, right?
     
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    You are right, the prices on Ebay are what the owner wants, not the true market value,for me, getting a used lantern in unknown condition is fun, as in restoring and making sure it will work as advertised when new, the other issue is availability, I believe these models are quite common in Europe, not so much in the US, it is the equivalent of trying to find a Coleman Lantern in Europe, not easy but doable...it's all about being in the right place and the right time.
     

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