427K - The Mountie

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  1. David Shouksmith

    David Shouksmith India Founder Member

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    I didn't put this in the 'Mystery Lamps' section because it's not a mystery per se - only to me! :doh: I came across it when I was looking for a better globe for my 427K, which this one provided.

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    It was nickel-plated originally but that's been removed, probably for the eBay sale. Unfortunately that's taken away a lot of the date but it's probably 8 37 - the 8 is clear, the three partial and for the 7 only a small part remains. There's nothing at all marked on the collar.

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    Is this the seafoam colour?

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    The two dimples are present (only the lower one visible here) showing it has the restrictor for kero fitted
     

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  2. Mackburner

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    Mystery?? It's a 427K. Can't be anything else with that look and a restricted air intake. ::Neil::
     
  3. David Shouksmith

    David Shouksmith India Founder Member

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    Well, that's what I was kind of wondering. The mystery is, then, how did I manage to get two 427K lanterns in England entirely by chance. Beats me...
     
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    Mackburner United Kingdom RIP - Founder Member

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    Well they were sold here. Kinda makes it possible to find a few I guess. Since you seem to have an embarrassment of them can I have one please? ::Neil::
     
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    You'll note that the bends in the bail quite easily clear the wide brim of the Mountie style ventilator when swung to the carry position, so the globe frame / bail is original to the vent. 427K Mountie lanterns which this one is are fairly scarce in Canada, nice find.
     
  6. Trevor Patterson

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    I have one of those, posted about it on here a while ago.

    http://0flo.com/index.php?threads/3233

    Regards

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  7. David Shouksmith

    David Shouksmith India Founder Member

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    Your thread needs moving to the LRG...

    I've had this lantern lit today - it burned OK on kero so after a few minutes I went to get the camera and came back. The lantern was still burning fine but the camera malfunctioned and I couldn't get a picture. :evil:

    I went away to try to sort out the camera (failed) but when I went back to the lantern, although it was still burning fine, there'd obviously been some sort of 'incendiary incident' while my back was turned - soot all over the inside and outside of the hood and a film of kero all over the tank and a small puddle below. I think the filler cap seal (which I didn't replace) must have failed partially and we may have had a temporary small kero-vapour fire from there... :whistle:
     
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    Said and done. :lol:
     
  9. David Shouksmith

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    Two incidents - probably a weeping filler cap seal was one and the soot was due to running the lantern outside on a breezy day with no globe, which was the other. Clearly the generator was cooling down when there was a gust of wind causing short term flare-ups, thus the soot.

    Camera still won't work and it also decided to wipe the full 2Gb memory card into the bargain. So that's good... :rage:
     
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  10. JEFF JOHNSON

    JEFF JOHNSON United Kingdom Subscriber

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    Hello David, when i used a glass globe on that type of lantern, i also attached some wire to the loop handle of the R-55 vapouriser/generator.

    I then bent the wire so that it would fit through one of the air holes in the cage's base plate, so that the pricker could be operated, Jeff.
     
  11. Matthew92

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    Thank goodness you went for a kero Coleman then David. :shock: :lol: :lol: :lol:
     
  12. Trevor Patterson

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    I have the same problem with my lamp. It runs ok for a while, but then dims. I then need to up a bit of wire under the glass to rotate the pricker. A coupler of pumps and it is working fine again.

    What mantles are you using?

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  13. David Shouksmith

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    Yes, it seemed to be holding pressure OK but I still haven't got to the far end of this issue yet. I'll probably run it again tomorrow in a more sheltered spot and with a globe. I'll keep my eye on the little blighter this time and find out what's happening. Dunk-testing it first might also be a good idea and I should have done that earlier... :oops:

    Mantles - I don't know because they're the ones that were on the lantern when it got here. Coleman of some sort though. Use 21A mantles as Neil recommends... :thumbup:

    Update: Firstly an image of the lantern after the 'incendiary incident'

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    I dismissed my theory about kero vapour leakage from the fillercap because the soot was all around the hood and there were no signs of any around the tank. I concluded the problem was due to flaring caused by the cool, breezy conditions exacerbated by not having a globe in place. So I relit the lantern the next day, again outside, when conditions were more favourable - much warmer and far less windy.

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    Even without a globe, the lantern ran well on 100% British kero with no evidence whatsoever of flaring or poor combustion generally. The kero on the tank was caused by a slight leak from the valve gland. Nipping it up a bit soon fettled that. And I managed to fix my camera, too, although not until after I'd bought a new one and unpacked it... :doh:

    I've relit it again tonight and it works perfectly well, although the NRV clearly needs attention - which it's not getting here!

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    I've cleaned up the mica globe but it's still discoloured with age and gives a yellowish 'cast' to the lantern light...
     
  14. adelcoro

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    Definitely a Mountie, too bad they removed the nickel plating
    Still a real nice and
    hard to find piece
     

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