For a long time (over a month) I tried to find a Lilor donut since I saw Conny's 4083 and finally I found one juhuuuu. Just now it is secured. Well it is not a 4083, but it certainly is a Lilor. I cant find it in the catalog of liotard. Anyone who knows what model? Conny? Michel? The lamp is picked up by a friend of mine and not yet in may hands, so the poor photo is from a laptop by my friend. I am told it is unfired and looks mint. Even the globe is not broken yet. I will get it home around christmas ho ho ho. Next stop is Tilley- and Petromax Doughnut station Claus C
Hi Claus, First of all - congrats you lucky ´sod´, to a fantastic lamp ! Unfired and a mint condition 1920,s lamp is next to impossible , but it´s soon Christmas time, so Santa was nice to you this year. From the very poor shot I think it could be the big brother of my donut lamp, the "Bord de Mer" donut lamp. This lamp came in four versions 4207/4209 with one mantle or the double mantle 4208/4210. More images are requested as soon as possible! /Conny
Thanks for identifying the lamp Conny. Well unfired and unfired. My friend has no ideas of lamps and has just collected it for me, so we will later see about the unfired'ness - but I have seen 4 photos of it my self on a laptop and it sure looks nice. I will try to get those photos to my PC (Personal Computer David) so I can ship them of to here. My friend is very busy here up to christmas and wont jump when I command it Claus C
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Here is another bit better picture. The glass dont look like the ones on the paper. It looks open in the bottom Maybe the glass has been changed. I sorry but I dont control the camera my self It looks very little used and a lot dirty. Claus C
Claus - the glass shade should have a small opening in the bottom, but it looks a bit different than the image from the catalogue. /Conny
Finally my lamp arrived. It looks almost complete but the controlhandles below the tank. Someone took a brown unmarked plastic petromaxish control-handle, probably from a rare lamp and put it on the one of the two control-shafts below the tank. Do you have 2 control-handles below your 4083 Conny and may I see a good photo of them The other shaft misses a handle so I think I need to hand-craft them my self. The 2 boxed mantles didnt survive but the porcelain-holders and I wonder if it is possible to just mount another mantle or are they a unit with an exact size for these lamps Are they still possible to buy Claus C
Here she is - dirty and straight from the box. She is a real beauty, but not without faults. I have some fettling to do and I would sure like to know how the control-handles for these 2 shafts below the tank looks so I can clone them. I did try to pay to CPL David but I dont have Pay-Pal or internet-banking (yes I know) to get into your VIP-lampregister. Sorry. Any mercyfull sharing of photos, drawings or good inputs, for the shape of these handles are wellcome. I will be back when fettling is over Claus C
hello Claus Not sure at all but you can see the knobs on this STA burner picture or on the stoves of this period. Black and round bakelite
Hello Claus, This appears to have the same style burner on it. Stands to reason that the knobs should be the same shape too.
yes it could be this shape I can send you a picture of this "LOR" burner but I think the shape is not of great importance
Hi Claus, You have to show the burner without cover for us to determine what type of control used. The Lor burner is stated to 150CP and in catalogues this donut of yours in the one mantle version is said to be 200 CP. I’ve got an older catalogue that has a rating of 150 CP so this said I believe it could be the Lor burner as Michel mentioned. The Lor burner has two control knobs, one for fuel and one for the cleaning needle. As your lamp already has a fuel control on the top of the tank it would be an unnecessary double function. Here is a link where you can find how the Lor burner looks [url=http://0flo.com/index.php?threads/3677 - /Conny
Thanks folks You (John, Michel, Conny) are absolutely right - to my eyes it is a Lor-burner and I think the handles must have looked like that from Michels beautifull lamp as John link to, while Noel Bec and Liotard de Freres did work together or even in the same rooms. I will try to make them by hand. Do you have an outer and inner diameter Michel? How are they mounted? Are they made of bakelite and is there any metal in the handles as linings? Even better Michel is if you can send me a photo with a metric-scale beside Here she is: Claus C
hello Claus here are the dimensions At the origine, the knobs are crimped on the steel rod. They seems to be done of black bakelite a friend of mine have done that for a Succès burner the rod is drilled and you introduces a small brass rod in order to block behind the bakelite knob. As the steel rod have been drilled and threaded, you can screw through the knob.
Michel - you are the man Thanks for goooood photos. Now I can make them look right. Here you go. A stick of Bakelit. By help from Michel Tadahhh Well still some finish to finish. Claus C
There is something totally different about my lamp and the one on Michels picture. 1. The one on the picture can not open the shade by a hinge like mine and the glass-dome seems to be mounted with screws. 2. The pictured lamp has a lowered tank and it is very difficult to use the contolhandles for the cleaningneedle and the fuel. 3. On the picture, the tank is mounted on the shade, mine is mounted on the vapourizer-chambers outer ring. Strange very very different to mine. Claus C
