Gloria table lamp

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  1. Bo Ryman

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    Here is an addition to the Gloria lamps. This one has no markings at all but exactly the same burner as on Conny's and Neil's lamps.
    As you can see, this one has been fettled a lot. The air valve has been replaced by a hose nipple
    and the dome is missing.
    But I am a bit confused concerning the fount. It is not the same as other from Gloria. And in the bottom a resoldering of the center bolt is showned, question is if this is a bastard?

    Bo

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  2. JEFF JOHNSON

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    Hello Bo, I have looked through all of the Gloria paperwork that I have and I cannot find your lamp, but I do not have a great deal of Gloria paperwork and Neil and I were discussing the lack of Goria information recently.

    The tank on your lamp appears to be an early tank and it could well be the original, that's my opinion anyway, Jeff.
     
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    Looks like someone tried to covert it to natural gas.
     
  4. Bo Ryman

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    I am on the same track, why replace a tank or a burner. I think it is some kind of repairation.

    The thought of a conversion to natural gas is not unimagineable either. I have to check if it is possible to close it manually or not. But I don't think there is a NRV there.
    Question is what to do with it. Fitting a dome and the right valve would be the best to get it back to original.

    Bo
     
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  5. JEFF JOHNSON

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    Hello Bo, it's well worth restoring, Jeff.
     
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    This whole thing does not look right to me. The tank may well be a Gloria original but if so it is the only one of the type I have seen. It appears to be made to take a sliding dome cover over the filler and valve. However whilst Gloria did that all the ones I have seen are on a Turban type fount not a straight sided one like this. The feet suggest early and perhaps AGM BUT AGM did not do a lamp with a sliding dome cover. The nearest I can find is a Coleman 35 but that does not have feet and is anyway not quite right in shape. Not many companies did the dome cover. Pitner, Yale, Coleman and Gloria all did but I can't find a match for that shape in any paper. So for now I will accept the negative evidence that with a Gloria burner the tank is perhaps a previously unknown Gloria type.

    Another big problem is the burner head. The burner is Gloria for sure but the valve is wrong. I have never seen any Gloria with a vertical valve. That part is always a cross piece with the valve horizontal and a hook on the vertical. It is an interesting lamp but not near in original condition. ::Neil::
     
  7. Bo Ryman

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    I am inclined to agree with you, Neil. The feets might well has been added afterwards, the soldering is not professional, just as sloppy as the others.
    So I guess I have to face the fact that this is a mix of parts.

    Bo
     
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    Hello Bo, I have checked Terry's website and there is one of Neil's Nulite lamps which has some similarities to your lamp, it's the tenth lamp on the page, Jeff.

    http://tgmarsh.faculty.noctrl.edu/uslampmo.html
     
  9. Bo Ryman

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    I agree, the tank and the column looks the same but not the rest. Another evidence for a mix of parts.

    But I believe the burner is original, though the vertical control wheel.
    It has a very special design. The jet is included to the generator and is hold by a nut with a cut out that makes it easy to replace. I have never seen anything like this but I am no specialist on US lamps.

    Bo

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    That is different and I wonder if anyone else has seen that setup before, Jeff.
     
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    Never seen anything like it and I have trouble believeing it is original Gloria. Could be mind you because Gloria paper is rare and we certainly don't have as much info as I would like. As a piece of engineering it is poor design because it involves some odd machining. I can't see any other way of fixing that generator though so maybe it is correct. So doubts for sure and I suspect a clever bit of fettling many years ago but just maybe it is good. ::Neil::
     

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