Petromax German Wehrmachtskiste

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  1. karli

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    My found from today :shock: ,

    a German Wehrmachtskiste :thumbup: .

    I will get her in some days.

    Condition? I hope NOS.

    One lantern seems to be fired.

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  2. karli

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    Some more pics

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  3. Michel

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    very nice, karli !!
     
  4. kerry460

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    very nice indeed .
    the bit i find interesting is the instructions are printed so similar to the ones that came with my Tingkwon rapid lamp
    "Butterfly" "star" & "Eye" Brands .

    this obviously not a coincidence .

    cheers,
    kerry
     
  5. Claus C

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    That is almost impossible to find Karli.
    This is awesome nice.
    So complete, with the hanging labels, instructions, lists, Shades, spareparts and all in original box is a exstreme good find and on top this condition. :D/
    This actually can be used as a reference-example.
    Well done and thanks for sharing you Lucky potato. :mrgreen:

    Claus C
     
  6. JEFF JOHNSON

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    Hello Karli, that's a great find! :thumbup: :D/ :clap: :D/ :clap: :thumbup: Jeff.
     
  7. Carlsson

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    A very nice item indeed, Karli.

    What does the certificate say, and how come it's written in English?
     
  8. Juan

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    Great!!!!!
     
  9. OldGreyDog

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    What a find! Glad you grabbed it while you had the chance - its most unlikely you will find another set so complete and in such good condition...
     
  10. karli

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    I will get the box the next 2 weeks.

    Is still on the way to me.

    I found the box at ebay.com
     
  11. leo

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    Respect Herr G.
    What a great find. And a great condition.
     
  12. Digout Australia

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    Nice Find
     
  13. WimVe

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    Nice catch, Karli !
    Where does it come from ? Send to the US from wartime Germany and now on the way back ?
    Would be nice to know the date stamp.
     
  14. karli

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    The box arrived the last days.
    A date stamp wasn't found.
    One lantern was fired, the other is new.
    All spares are reday for use.
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    Judging by the newspaper, it may be that a GI brouht it home after the war.
    It's a very good find. I hope to find it too one day ...
     
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    Very nice!
     
  17. WimVe

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    Nice one Karli,

    It is a wehrmacht box so it should be stamped somehwere with the "Waffenambt" stamp. On my box it wasn't clear and easy to find though.

    I wonder which army group did use them. There are not much wartime pictures with Px lamps on them.
     
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    Hi Karli,

    Great pictures! They really show some history :thumbup: :-({|=

    What's the Waffenamt code, is it WaA205?

    Are there any WaA markings on the lamps as well?

    Thnx,
    Peter
     
  20. karli

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    Hi Peter,

    I don't know nothing about the codes.

    At the German Pelam forum is a discussion about the markings.

    http://forum.pelam.de/board18-fachbereich-deutsch/board2-sammler-forum/22507-unverhofft-kommt-oft-wehrmachtskiste/index3.html#post248200

    On the lamps is no marking
     
  21. Mackburner

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    KArl sent me a scan of the certificate which I have cleaned up some. ::Neil::

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  22. Claus C

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    Just to be sure Karli - these lamps are supposed to be all iron, correct me if I am wrong :?: . The tanks just looks so fine that they remind me of a chromed brasstank. Or was that just the 2827 there was made of iron?

    Claus C
     
  23. karli

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    The 2827 is made of iron.

    My lamps are nickeled and made of brass.
     
  24. Claus C

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    In the years of war, why did they accept some lamps was made of brass and some should be made of iron when brass was limited?
    I thought all brass went to weaponproduction :?

    Claus C
     
  25. Carlsson

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    Thanks Neil. Finally an answer regarding that English certificate I asked about initially.
    That was what interested me the most.

    Kind of interesting document, because my first thought otherwise when understanding that this war time item ended up in the USA, was that it just was another of all war loots that found its way over the atlantics.
    Of course it still might be, I don't know how valid papers like these actually were.
     
  26. Mackburner

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    Yes an interesting document. The original is poor quality and it too me a few hours to repair all the faded or damaged text. Perhaps not all that important in the grand scheme of things but historically interesting.

    I dare say most officers at the time were probably not too concerned about how these things were "found" but had to go with the system and certify the goods were legally obtained. Mind you if the item was military then they might have regarded such kit as captured rather than looted and fair game. ::Neil::
     
  27. Carlsson

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    Yes, I find things like this very interesting.

    I'm lousy on reading some handwritten scripts, though. It's a pain when investigating old documents, church books and other such things that's used for e.g. genealogy.
    Same thing here...
    Can you read what the captains name is?
     
  28. Nils Stephenson

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    If you really wanted to know who the captain was, I'm sure it could be traced through his serial number.

    I have the same challenge here with the old church records. The style of writing changed in the mid 1800s in Denmark so I guess it was similar in Sweden.
     
  29. SSG Popov Ukraine

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    Hello Karli!

    Is it possible to get exterior dimensions of the wooden box incl. dimensions of top part?

    Thank you!
     
  30. WimVe

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    Welcome to the forum @ SSG Popov.
    Are you going to make a box yourself ?
     

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