Hello I found nice picture with view of the railway station in Lithuanian town Kaišiadorys. It must to be of the end of XIX century or early begining of XX. Can anybody to identify what lamps are seeing in front of the building?
Nice photo. They are big lamps whatever they are, about the same height as the people in the picture.
Impresive device, indeed. One more picture, better view on the lamp. the ropes for lifting and taking down of the lamp are seing.
Agree here for kerosene Ulbrych Warsawa: http://lampycisnieniowe.pl/forum/attachment.php?aid=1647 The shape fits I think. I did see one with a longer middlepiece, but cant find it now, sorry. I know where to find the seller though. Claus C
Claus, that lamp is a pressure lamp. And frankly I don't see many similarities in the looks of that one and the one posted by Virginijus. The height of the lamp on the Lithuanian picture (a postcard?) might indicate that it could be a gravity lamp, just as Wim says, but it doesn't necessary need to be for alcohol.
Yes, I agree. And it must have been quite practical. Here's a version of that "steering wire" from a different lamp in a Swedish catalogue:
Christer that pressurelamp was used as a streetlight in Poland, you can still see bullitholes from streetfighting on the lamp. I only agree for kerosene because that is what drives the Ulbrych. The similarity is the shape. It starts with a shade, goes to a vertical-sided chambercover, therefrom to a curved chamber/covering and then this odd long tube to the upperpart of the chimney, where there seems to be 2 levels of the upper covering of the chimney + the shape is alike. The Ulbrych has the same shape, but not the long odd tube as the one I Refer to but like one I did see alike earlier on a another Ulbrych. The tank looks though a bit thinner and not like the Ulbrych. I know no other lamps starting from the shade with a vertical chamber and so on up but there might of course be that. I also find it very possible the Lithauanian people used polish lamps. Claus C
Don't agree with that. Relationship, even mercantile, between these two states were complicated in these times, especialy after 1919, Sweden and Germany products of this kind were in the use mainly. I think, Polish lamps were more for local market, seems to me, they were not very common. Do you know period of their production? Also, railway was mostly representative and important structure, so I think only most famous and highest quality brands of stuff were used there. It's only my opinion and intuition, but I would think on swedish brand.
Yes, the Baltic states was a large market for Swedish lamps back then. Just as Russia which probably was the by far largest, but that particular market became a bit cool after 1917... Railway stations were one of the main customers for e.g. Lux, but also Aladdin to mention the two largest Swedish companies in those early days. But I can't say that I recognize the lamp in your picture among those two, so my bet is that it's a German lamp.
Politic or not. The lamp dont look like LUX ex. As they used the Ulbrych as a streetlight it must have been solid enough. I do admit that the curved covering just above the vertical chamber dont projects out on the Picture as on the Ulbrych and I dont remember if it was so on the "long" Ulbrych I saw for sale. Piotr Ulbrych was born in 1883 and he owned the factory, "Polska Fabryka Piotra Ulbrycha" but I dont know the age of the lamp. The PRESSURElamp-production probably first started after 1929, where Piotr's daughter married a polytechnician, Eugene, as he continued the company. Claus C
Yes, that is fully agreed. Noone ever said that it looks like a Lux. I actually said that it didn't look like one. I still vote for a German lamp.
Yes it is not a pressurelamp. It has the same shape as the Ulbrych pressurelamp. I beleive Eugene brought the knowledge of pressurelamps wiht him in 1929 from his schoolstudy and practic, but I am guessing. Ulbrychlamps were made before 1929 probably from around 1906. The story is to be read here: http://dornbach.bloog.pl/id,328771320,title,ROK-1934-ZE-SZMULOWIZNY-DO-POLWSIA-ZWIERZYNIECKIEGO,index.html?smoybbtticaid=6137fe Claus C
What about the German manufacturers Kinley-Licht or Continentale? They also made huge lamps... But nowadays they are very rare and I haven't seen any like those yet. And yes, I also agree with paraffin/kerosene. Alcohol should have had bigger tanks because of the higher fuel consumption. BR, Martin
You mean Kitson Licht from Wien? Yes they also start with a vertical burnerhousing and they are big. Could be Claus C
...no, I mean Kinley-Licht from Frankfurt/Main in Germany. It's an odd company, but you'll find some information on them on the web, e.g. on Erik's page. BTW: the yery same lamp like shown on Erik's page is for sale at the moment in the bay of evil... Not my price, although an interesting item.
Looks almost like the Continental "Autofax" lamp listed in this catalogue: [url=http://0flo.com/index.php?threads/1747
Well spotted; you seem to be right! And the usage at train stations is also explicitly mentioned in the catalogue.
