A similar lamp is seen in a catalogue from 1908/09. This is my new 110 years old Globen from the Swedish Company AB Globe from Göteborg. It was former placed inside the arrival/departure-hall in Århus Train-Station, Danmark. The lamp was taken Down in 1939 and Electric light was put up. A former employee was allowed to bring it home as scrap - but he didnt . It is unknow when it was electrocuted but it is done half past gently. I still havent thought about what misses, but some holes is to be stuffed and some tubes are to be made for sure. Here she is with years of dust + before cleaning and repair: The lamp seem of very high quality and I cant wait to fix the problems below the dust I will follow up with some Pictures later after restoring and when lightning it up Claus C
Great score Claus. It will be interesting to see how they solved the cleaning needle mechanism. How come you can put a date on it? Is it a verified source, e.g. from when they got them for the railroad station or perhaps even a date stamp on the lamp? Or is it just a guess because one catalogue showing this lamp me and Conny got is from 1908-09?
The needle is my biggest concern - I still dont know what was done Down there. The housing for the Electric lightbulb is rocky and seems just set Down in the the original burnerhousing. It is stuck because of the wire to the electric-housing. All I know of this lamp is from Connys catalogue, inclusive the name "Globen". I dont know how long time AktieBolaget Globe Ljus existed and made this model, also not if they made it before this catalogue - I have Swedes here to know that for me Claus C
Ah, I see. Thanks Claus. Well, your lamp isn't exactly the one we can see in the 1908/09 catalogue, and I have thouroughly read through it. They don't have many different lamp models, and there is no lamp showing in there with the much wider shade your has. Perhaps the lamp illustrated is the 300CP version, and the 700CP looked a bit different like yours. Or perhaps your lamp is a slightly different model from another year, but it can't differ much, so it's definately in that area. Globe made lamps atleast also in 1907. "Globen" is just a telegram code for ordering the lamps. If e.g. a lamp ordered as "Globen" also was to be delivered with an attachment arm, it would instead have been called "Globton". Has the fitting for the fuel tubing and the little funnel for the preheating alcohol been removed? I can't see them in the pictures, but they could of course have been obscured by the chimney.
I is my experience that the lamps often dont look like the catalogue-models. Take the Lilors hanginglamps as an ex. Neither Conny's nor mine fits the shown models in the catalogue without the pretty big differences. My logic also tells me it must be a 700 cp, while the arrival/departure-hall in Århus Banegård is quite large and have a high ceiling, why putting up a 300 cp would be like throwing a cocktail-sausage in a Olympic sportshall. Light was to be needed here. The funnel and fueltube is here on this blurry Photo: The bigger shade is a shade attached to the normal shade. This "outer" shade is just dropped down and 6 screws is fixing it to the normal shade. The normal shade is below as to be seen here: I could be extra equipment, as the parabols for ex. Petromax and so. I am quite happy about that, while it makes this big lump looking more pleasing/harmonic and danes were quite feisty about design at that time by the way. I have difficulties finding the catalogue in the CPL-library. Claus C
We haven't posted that catalogue because we have gotten it in person from another collector. It's not good etics to post other people's entire stuff. Just snippets like we did in that topic you first made. I never questioned it to be a 700CP. On the contrary I tried to explain that perhaps it was the 300 that was illustrated in the catalogue, and not your 700, hence the different look. It can also be that the version for outside use used a wider brim than the inside one, and the catalogue just illustrate the indoor version. It was common with lamps on this kind that he outside lamp had a wider brimmed shade. It doesn't matter now, the loose(ish) shade explains it. It should look exactly as in the catalogues pictures, because in my experience these early illustrations was extremely well made and detailed. Atleast with Swedish brands. Glad the funnel and fuel pipe fitting still was there. It will be interesting to see how they solved the cleaning needle mechanism and what the burner parts left under the light bulb looks like.
Ok I thought you ment a difference in the burner/size or something. The lamp on Connys Photo looks to me alike so I didnt think on the possible a scale-difference. I can only spot 1 difference and that is the lower bulb on the chimney is a bit more open than the the other above. On Connys Photo the 2 bulbs on the chimney are alike each other and alike the upper bulb on my lamps chimney. Do you see other diffenrences beside the outer shade I know for sure this lamp was placed inside the roofcovered arrival and departure area at the trainstation and outside they used gaslamps. I do have a Photo but unfortunately no permission to use it. Claus C
Thanks Niels Chr. For that like, I will take care that you tommorrow will get a rusk-cake with raspberrycream and hazelnutflakes served by my wife at your home, and you may of course touch this lamp any time you want Claus C
Finally I got time for cleaning up the lamp. It looks good all the way but the burner that has some minor scratches to be taken care of. The lamp is pretty un-handy, so both cleaning and photografing was a bit of a challenge. First the cleaned lamp, soapwaterwash, fresh hot Water and then wiped of with a dishcloth. Opening such a large glass-dome gives you the chills but note the hinge. The hinge is attached with a leaf-spring so the dome wont open harsh.
And why was this then a challenge in handling the thing. You can see why here below to get a impression of the size. First in Company with mini - but that is almost unfair to this Little great Coleman, so lets bring in a Tilley: A Tilley can actually hide in the chimney When I cleaned her up, there was a surprise for me in the top of the chimney. A piece of the old mantle. It is possible to see the woven pattern. Maybe this will come in handy hopefully for later use. Claus C
Hmm, so it's pretty big then Claus. Love it, but I'm not jealous because I wouldn't know where to hang it.
Hehe Matthew, thanks. I did find a place already for the lamp. Yes its a big lump, but often when you see a lamp on a Photo it is difficult to judge the size, so in pandering for you English, I knew you could understand a Tilley-comparing. BTW the lamp shows some nice details while I demounted it. All metalparts, as screws, hanger-crown and so were painted green by the producers so bare metal didnt springs to mind. Claus C
Yes well when you can see that a tilley would fit just inside the glass of yours, you can tell its big.
The glass has a crack and searching after another glass I found this link to Hytta. http://hytta.de/zubehoer/435.htm The glass has the exact meassure 320 wide X 295 high in mm and Hytta did earlier have this 320 glass for sale. Do I understand the glass as temperary out of stock or is it never coming back? I dont quite understand the z.Z. in the "z.Z. leider nicht lieferbar"-note. Any german translaters here? Claus C
Zur Zeit - at present. In theory it means that they expect it to become sellable again some time in the future, but in reality they have written this on many things that are not likely to ever be back in stock - for instance this Optimus 1200: http://hytta.de/optimus/optimus_lampen_ersatzteile,873.htm
Petromax has such one - I don't know if it is the correct size: http://www.petromax.de/en/accessories.html#Glaeser
Thanks Jorgen, the ZZ-clearing helped. Unfortunately is the Petromax-glass at least 10 cm too small. I will let Hytta know I need a couple of glass, so that might start a avalanche of 320 mm-glassproduction Claus C
Of course they will immediately do that Good luck - actually, they may not manufacture the glass themselves but perhaps those who do have more. Let's hope on it.
hehe Jørgen. I didnt have high hopes but now I actually recieved a mail from the Company, where they told me they did have a list and I was attached to it and they would write back when they had enough orders. Nice Company Claus C
In this moment I am sitting waiting for my globe to arrive. I cant wait to see if it fits correctly. Prejudices - shame on me . I (and Jorgen too I think) had doubts that the company ever would produce these big globes again but: Jürgen Breidenstein from the StugaCabana send me a mail that the globes for the Globe is in stock - how cool is that Company The globes from StugaCabana has a outer diameter 320 mm and inner diameter 295 mm and the hight of the globe is be 295 mm too. Unfortunately I can only messure my lamp roughly but the Stuga-globe seems to fit the numbers, though I can not be sure before I get the globe home. I wont disassemble the Globe-globe before I recieve the Stuga-globe. http://hytta.de/zubehoer/Glasglocken-fuer-Haengelampen,435.htm If the Stuga-globe fit then the next quest is to fit the servicehatch from the Globe to the new globe. Maybee I have to cut a larger hole in Stugas globe. Well for 59 euro I will sure give it a go if it turns out to be necessary. But for now I am a happy lamper Claus C
The former owner, before me, got the lamp from an antikstore, who got the lamp from a namegiven widow to a former employee of the Danish railways, DSB. He(the dead man) got the lamp with him as scrap when electricity was installed in Århus Banegård. The widow sold his lamp to the antikstore, "De 4 verdenshjørner" (4 corners of the world). The former owner also got this photo, that is taken from the same timeperiod, where they installed electricity. The lamp is hanging just inside in the arrivalhall when this photo is taken - note it is not the lamp outside, what ever that is? The namegiven former owner, I bought the lamp from, got the information from the widow through the antique-shop, about when the lamp was taken down + the photo below. I did search for insidetaken photos, but didnt find any yet - but I will, because I know they are out there somewhere. Claus C
Do you know which publication this was in? I'm wondering if it was Australian as they're asking people to write to Sweden. If it was, I wonder if they ever got a reply as I've never heard of Globe being sold in Australia.
