Coleman 169K heater

G'day all,

I have a Coleman 169K fount mounted with a heater. I can't seem to find any examples and am wondering if the fount and heater are a mismatch.

Sadly, someone has scratched the front of the fount and base of the fount. On the base they have removed information for some unknown reason.

I cannot find a date.

I can tell the heater is missing the mantle and the grill.

I have seen a photo of this heater being used in the upright position (as depicted in picture 4 here) and being used as a stove.


Any information you good people can provide will be very appreciated.

 

Have a look in Lamp reference Gallery,
Coleman, Other products ( http://www.classicpressurelamps.com/forum/showgallery.php?fid/256/ )
Font may be original or have been replaced due to damage or corrosion.
Thought I had that but got sniped.
Graham

 

Graham,

Mate, I had seen your post of the museum one, it's dated, I can find no date marks on this one.

Any search I have done for a 169K heater have proved fruitless.

Actually I just noticed a post by Flygt on your thread in which he states. "The Canada made 480 HotRay differs from the USA made HotRay in that it was not supplied with built in pressure pump"

This does not have a built in pump. I still don't think the fount and heater go together though.

Sorry for sniping you but I thought the price was ok.

 

The font is correct style for the heater Model 480 but the model number on it is for a Kerosene table lamp possibly factory fitted, the erased section would have read [for use with kerosene only].
The highest bidder wins no prize for third place.

 

Thanks Graham,

So, all I need is the mantle and a cage, sounds easy enough - not lol.

My bid happened to be 1 cent higher than 2nd place. I actually anticipated it to go a bit higher but I bid what I'm happy to pay.

 

Hi Matty .
This is mine as found different font .
I also have another same font and have seen others the same .So I believe that they came this way to .Mine has the original mantle to.
best of luck finding a ceramic mantle.
Bob

Different Font

What the guard looks like

Mantle size etc

 

Bob, thanks for the additional photos and info.

I had not given any thought to finding a ceramic mantle. I did find a post on here where someone made one out of stainless steel. That's the route I'll be going.

1" stainless fits perfectly apparently. I haven't got a drill press so I'm looking for perforated stainless steel. I'm hoping to find some stainless exhaust pipe that will do the trick. I'd just have to fix up one end.

 

Bob,

Is it possible to date these founts? There are no date marks on my fount.

 

Have a look here (http://0flo.com/index.php?posts/2276 15 posts down, you might try your local Termi Mesh installer for scraps of stainless steel mesh that might be suitable.

 

Thanks Graham.

This is the sort of thing I was thinking.

 

Matty .
Here is the right size .
Bob .

 

Bob,

Sensational, thank you.

 

Matty .
On side of font should be coleman logo and either side of that some date numbers .
These heaters came out about 1930etc

 

Bob,

I have a Coleman table lamp that has the logo and the month and year either side of the logo. This fount hasn't those same date marks.

 

Matty, your font from a 169K table lamp. That is the reason it say to use a R55 generator.

 

Hello dspearsy2k,

Thanks for the reply. I understand what you wrote but am trying to work out if there is a cryptic message in there as well.

Are you also meaning also that I shouldn't be using kerosene with this heater burner?

I have been wondering why the wording on the bottom of the fount was scratched out. Graham had earlier in the thread stated the wording that was scratched out would be for use with kerosene only

I wonder if one of the previous owners had combined this fount with the heater and realised the wording on the fount was now incorrect?

My 159x fount has the wording Use R55 generator but lacks any wording in regards to kerosene.

I hope what I have written makes sense.

 

Most Coleman products with a model number ending with a K indicate use of kerosene a 480 though is designed to use Coleman fuel.

 

Graham, that little bit of information is gold to someone as new to lamps as I am. Thanks.

So, I now know I have to use Coleman fuel with this heater. I'm not fond of things going bang so I might put it in the re-sell basket.

Graham, does the X, as in 159X, have a particular meaning too?

Sorry to be asking so much but I'm learning lots in this thread.

 

Hello Matty, the link below shows a Coleman advert which shows that heater, Jeff.

http://0flo.com/index.php?threads/8100

 

Hey Jeff,

It's a pretty cool advert that. I wonder what "Makes and burns it's OWN gas" means?

I'll try not to confuse you from here on..

Do they mean it makes a gas out of the petrol?

If so it must have been confusing for some American consumers reading that ad because of their terminology. Some may have thought this heater was a miracle invention that makes it's own gas (petrol). No need to buy gas to refill!

The $9.75 asking price would have been well worth it

 

Hello Matty, yes, it makes it's own gas (fuel and air mix) from petrol.

If you would like to be confused by American terminology, then check out the article which is shown via the link below, Jeff.

http://0flo.com/index.php?threads/237

 

Too funny Jeff,

A very good little parody.

Having said that, reading what Neil wrote, makes me understand that when the Americans say "gas lamp" they don't mean gas as in petrol but as you said gas as in fuel and air mix.

Well, I understand what I meant, even if you don't.