My PQ lamp just arrived and it was unmarked. That surprised me as I thought Coleman always had a pretty fancy logo etc to display. Does anyone know the reason why these are unmarked? Are there other lamps that Coleman usually left unmarked?
The question I'm getting to may have asked and answered before, forgive me if that's the case. I've had a really good look at the lamp and not a makers mark anywhere, on any part of the lamp. Whilst messing around cleaning the burners etc, it came to me that the reason there are no marks may be that Coleman produced unmarked products like this for retailers that then sold the products in their retail stores. Is that a possibility or fact?
Matty. Can't tell doesn't have the ball on the stem or tapered flare . The ball one is Canadian. Did it come from Canada or the states. look at photos in gallery here. Thats the only way to tell where it was made. Bob .
Bob, I went to the gallery and looked again and I think this one of Jeffs' is the same as mine. http://0flo.com/index.php?threads/978 In his topic he explains his is unmarked so it must be pre 1924. I take by what Jeff said, that means Coleman didn't either date these lamps or all their lamps until 1924. Maybe it was just these lamps they didn't stamp until after 1924? I posted in the Who made Colemans in Australia topic that Coleman applied and were granted a trademark in Australia in early 1921, for engraving plates with the Coleman logo and name.
Hi Matty, it seems Coleman started dating their stoves and lamps/lanterns in 1924, so, undated Coleman stuff will be pre-1924. Dating the earlier goods is possible (to within a certain time frame) by looking at the early catalogs etc. .The differences are not always very obvious, and sometimes 'dated' pictures were used. The written words are mostly correct. Best regards, Wim
Wim, Thanks very much for the explanation. The 1924 date makes a lot of sense to me now for another topic on CPL. In that topic I've stated that I 'think" Coleman products were started being made in Australia between 1921 and 1925. The 1924 date, to me, adds some tie in weight to that theory. I know Coleman had the engraving plates to stamp their products in Australia at least, from 1921. I would assume they had the same plates to stamp their products from at least 1921 in Canada and America but why they chose to wait until 1924 to start stamping is anyone's guess.
These PQ lamps are not often found marked. Never seen one with the logo on the side of the tank. Some are marked in the base plate but a lot are not. Production of these was continuous from 1916 to 1932 so that is about 8 years before and after 1924 and you would therefore expect that a great number of the examples with collectors will be later lamps and post 1924. The fact that most are not marked suggests that even after 1924 they were seldom stamped. ::Neil::
Mine is unmarked too... At least you have the shade holders and complete burners on yours. You don't have the decorative bit that covers the eye-bolt when it is hanging though.
No I don't have that and it's a shame but perhaps if I look for long enough I may find one. Speaking of complete burners. I've cleaned them. Are you supposed to take the generator out each time you need to clean the jet? I've only had Colemans with the R55 generator and it has a pricking system. I liked the look of these lamps from seeing them on CPL. Now having one, I appreciate the lamp even more. I think they are a really stunning lamp. Of course shades will be the icing on the cake. Despite looking OK in the photos, the chrome isn't flash on the fount. I'll probably remove it.
I think those decorative bits are easily damaged and so possibly some get discarded... The one on mine took a fair bit of straigtening and even more cleaning before it looked half way decent. I'm hoping the jets don't get blocked to often as it looks like a right Royal pain to clear them!
