Barthel 802 radiant heater

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  1. Bo Ryman

    Bo Ryman Founder Member Subscriber

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    I believe this is the first item stamped Barthel posted in this forum. This company is most famous for their blow torches and Norma or Juwel stoves. But it seems like they also produced a heater. I have search but can't find any information about it.
    This item is looking a bit like most heaters but has some unique designs, for example the U-shaped holder for the reflector and the fluted column.
    I have traded this one from the guy that restored it, Eric Lefebvre in Belgium. He has really make a good job with it.
    I suspect that the reflector guard is missing, as it often is, so if anyone knows what the original looks like I would be glad to get a hint.

    Bo

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  2. longilily United Kingdom

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    Very nice Bo :thumbup: hope someone comes forward with a pic of the guard for you to replicate [-o<

    Be really nice to have it complete :D
     
  3. Michel

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    I don't know this heater but have a look at this one
    What do you think of ?
     
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  4. JEFF JOHNSON

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    An excellent find! :thumbup:
     
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    Bo, that is a real beauty!
     
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    Excellent, Bo!
     
  7. longilily United Kingdom

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    There's your pattern Bo, just got to make it now :clap:
     
  8. Bo Ryman

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    Thank you Michel, that one is very similar to mine.
    Only minor differences so probably the same.
    That guard is really fancy but unfortunately impossible for me to reproduce. Have to consult a specialist to have something like that made.
    I did a simple one from some brass stipes, better than nothing. But a copy of the original would be great and really lifting this beautiful heater.

    Bo

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  9. longilily United Kingdom

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    What diameter is that reflector Bo ?
     
  10. Carlsson

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    It's not exactly the same radiator in that French ad, so it's not certain that the guard should look the same on this Barthel.
    Until you know exactly how the original should look, I think your home made guard is as good as any, Bo.
     
  11. Conny C

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    Hi,

    Nice radiator Bosse :thumbup: ! Looks very similar to my French "Etna" heater by the French company "Intens". Here´s a patent drawing from that heater; gives you an idea of how to make a new safety guard/pan support.

    /Conny

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  12. longilily United Kingdom

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    Just what Bo needs :thumbup:
     
  13. Carlsson

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    Well, it's still actually not really the exact same heater, so I wouldn't jump in to conclusions here.
    Even if this German Barthel to some extent look like some French radiators shown in this topic, I wouldn't automatically assume that absolutely every detail would look the same.

    Keep your cool Bo, until you actually know for sure what kind of guard your radiator would need.
     
  14. Mackburner

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    This is the correct heater. Not the best of images but perhaps just about good enough to see the guard. ::Neil::

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  15. Carlsson

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    Well, it looks like it's a fair bit easier to manufacture than the French, sort of pentagram shaped ones.
     
  16. Nicola Francesco Elia

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    Hello,

    finally some real images of this heater, exactly as presented on that dark catalog image.

    The original burner should be on the style of Juwel 15 / Juwel 6b, asymmetric. In this case the burner is a little taller if compared to stove ones:

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    The filler cap Patent suggests us that this heater is post 1929.

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    Nicola
     

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