I Don't Know What Light This Is - It's For Sale.

This light is a very good looking hollow wire.

I don't know what make it is. If I wasn't chasing a couple of others I'd buy it.

I know the seller would accept $200 including postage to Australia.

Link to Buy It Now-auction.

 

Matty, I see some writing on the glass to the left side of the generator loop.
Can't make out what it is.

 

Macbeth
No 407

 

Anthony .
think that is the brand name of glass .
Matty if you like it and buy it just send it down this way we will test it for you .
Bob .

 

I've got a couple of others in my sights Bob.

I just got a Doud Lighting Co hollow wire overnight that I'm pretty excited about.

These are photos the seller had.

 

Just a silly idea I already assume you have considered, but with that pretty prominent acorn in the ornaments, is it possible that it actually is an Acorn?
Neil suspect that those probably were made by Nulite, so did they make any early lamps looking somewhat like this?

Acorns does of course mean many other things in many cultures. And ornaments were common, so it's just as likely that it's put there only as a decoration with no deeper meaning connected to the maker.

I'm just tossing out the idea.

 

Christer,

Yes it was suspected that the Acorn may have been from Acorn Brass Manufacturing.

Anthony pointed out the Acorn to me.

That didn't help me with my investigations.

Due to Anthony noticing the Macbeth 470 I did some research and came up with some terrific information on the Macbeth Co that manufactured the glass. Bob was spot on.

There is every chance this lamp, if it was an Acorn was made in the late 1800's or early 1900's.

I would love to own it but with recent purchases and most likely a few more to come in the next few days, I simply can't afford it.

I've been looking online for a contract to make a deal to sell my soul for the lamp but no luck yet.

 

Acorn is probably right. The company was certainly in business when that was made. They date from at least 1895 to 1923. The burner is a low pressure/gravity type with upright mantles so probably around 1905-1912ish. Interesting piece. ::Neil::

 

Very nice lamp it would become, if fettled right with a correct shade .
The Acorn-garnish dont look quite like another Acorn-lamps garnish I have seen though, but it must be (ACORN BRASS MANUFACTURING COMPANY, Chicago Illinois USA)


Claus C

 

Not sure I understand what you try to say here, but I agree it would be a nice lamp with the correct shade.

Out of curiosity... What other Acorn lamps have you seen apart from any posted here?

 

A extended version of the thing Christer didnt get:

The acorn-garnish of the shown lamp, the acorn it-self is not quite the same acorn-pattern as on another Acorn-lamp I have seen.
That gives me a Little doubt that this is a Acorn-lamp from the Company (ACORN BRASS MANUFACTURING COMPANY, Chicago Illinois USA)

The rest you got right Christer

Claus C

 

OK...

But again; what was the other Acorn lamp you have seen apart from any shown in here?

 

Here you can see the logo with a Acorn.

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/munwai/acorn.htm

I saw a Acorn lamp, not Mattys find, for sale on the ebay 6 days ago Christer. A gravity lamp.

If you will discuss your doubts - then send me a PM.

Claus C

 

Ah! A picture from Alan's old site.
Yes, that place is very familiar, and I guess we all have been there very often.
It's still a good reference site.
Unfortunately he's not very updated. I don't think he has changed a thing in there for many years.

Anyway... Not sure how a single picture of a slightly different shaped acorn should contradict another shaped acorn here.

 

I am glad you are sure now Christer.
I, myself just had a "little doubt" - but when Neil also writes that it is "probably" a Acorn - then what more is there to discuss.

I shouldnt have brought up that the Acorn-garnish wasnt like in this old site that you all know so well, who ever you are thinking about here.

But I guess that some of the readers here dont know the site and I also guess Acorn them self didnt change much on their lamps since this outdated site was created.

The lamp I saw didnt have the same Acorn as the one on Mattys lamp, but despite the Little doubt I have, then Mattys lamp probably IS a Acorn lamp.

The contradiction could be the strange and irrationel behavior in changing a logo-like pattern - but that is also seen before, why it probably is a Acorn-lamp.

We are all familar with ex. Petromax put a extra star-tip in their logo on the tanks, when the chinese took over the production, and we are all familar with ---- you name some more your self.

Claus C

 

That picture of the Acorn from Alans site was discussed by myself and Anthony.

I found it after Christers first post.

I think there is a large likelihood that this is an Acorn lamp.

Even though the Acorn is different, it's hard to imagine another maker using an Acorn in the same period.

 

Acorn in this is a lot like on the lamp.
I would still like to see it in an Acorn catalogue though.

 

I agree that it is likely a Acorn-lamp Matty.
It would sure be nice if the lamp had a tag, like the lamp you show below the "Acorn".
The Acorn is a symbol of robustness and the lampmaker "Riemann" did also use acorns in his logo.
The one more thing is that garnish is expensive to make new mold for and so a deviation is to me a Little strange. You know I was searching for a special gravity lamp (and found it) and under that search I also found a Acorn-lamp with logo and garnish.
The acorn-garnish was different from yours lamp above - but as I started this answer then I also believe that your lamp must be a Acorn-lamp.

I am sorry for the harsh tone above in your topic, but I was obviously easy to misunderstand.

Just saw your Photo Anthony and yes that looks much like the lamp by Matty.

Claus C

 

Claus,

Harsh Tone?

It was simply discussion. I never once thought anything you said had a harsh tone to it.

 

Gents, When I say "Probably" you need to stop and think. It means I am not sure but on balance of probability it is a fact but yet to be confirmed. Without evidence "Facts" are not always true so you need to wield the razor of the Good William and go with the balance of probability but beware of stating as facts things that are only probable. Useful word probably. ::Neil::

 

The lamp has been bought, not by me.

Hopefully, once we get some better photos of it or a makers name is discovered, that will help us work out whom made it.

 

All's good Neil. Just working out what the odds are on this race. Isn't it true that the favorite is usually not the winner.

I have just bought the lamp my self so will be able to get to see if there are any other markings on it.

In the mean time if any one does have cataloge info on it of course we would all love to see it.

 

Another thing that has been cool discussing this lamp is learning about the Macbeth - Evans company.

They have some exceptional stuff that is still around.

 

Anthony,

Do you reckon the lamp is complete or do you think something like a deflector would be on the top of the globe?

I think it's probably complete.

 

Matty, I am only guessing but I think there is some thing missing.
The shape on the rim could be for structural strength but could be for a reflector.
Would be awkward to to fit while the lamp was hanging so I just don't know.

 

"Edited by Christer Carlsson on 26-12-15 09:20 AM. Reason for edit: Reduced the size of the pictures. Please don't post pictures that are so wide that they force the pages to be scrolled sideways, thanks."

Christer,

That's funny. I don't mean offensively to you, I mean I just don't get why it happens.

I remember once before, I apologised about the size of my pictures and you and others thought, what are you talking about?

The pictures did look large on my screen, why I don't know, but I assumed it was the way they were displaying on my screen.

I'll never understand why I seemingly do the same thing each time but get differing results.

The easiest way would be to stop posting pictures then I can't get it wrong.

 

My guess is that you took those pictures from e.g. eBay, or another sales site and posted directly here?
That's allright, but you need to resize them if they are as large as these were.
And now I'm talking pixel wise, not byte size.
Some of the pics you posted were 2544x3472
That's much wider than most resolutions people have set their monitors to.

It's no big deal. But the esaiest is if you check the size before you post.

 

Yes, you are right. I got them from ebay.

I lead a too simple life it seems. I just assumed if they show on ebay a certain size they would do the same here.

I've never thought to check the sizes.

 

Yeah, same here. Christer has explained this resolution thing before and although I sort of followed it at the time I've forgotten it now.

I think the thrust of it was that if a pic is 640 x 480 pixels and you have your monitor set to, say, 160dpi, then the pic will appear 4" x 3" actual size on your screen. Or something...

 

Resize is always a tricky thing to manage. Just set images to 72 PPI and 640 x 640 pixels as a max then set compression at about 30% and the images will be an acceptable file size and fit the page without problems. Bigger might sometimes be better particularly with text but generally the size is OK and appear good on the monitor. Some lately have been too wide even for my 24" wide screen. ::Neil::