Blow Lamps anyone ?

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  1. Scouter Bill

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    In between fettling lamps and the odd stove I picked up an old Blow Lamp (1950's Monitor) and have got it up and running.
    The question: Where to post - CPL or CCS ? :whistle:
     
  2. JonD

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    Usually discussed in the members lounge of either/both :)
     
  3. Carlsson

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    As Jon says.
    You can post it in either place.
    Nothing wrong with blow lamps, and it doesn't matter if it's in the stove site or the lamp ditto since it will be in the off-topic section on both.
    I think you will get more replies if you post at CCS. It usually does.
     
  4. JonD

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    Thanks Christer.
    You are right that in general CCS seems to have more than twice the traffic of CPL.

    I like both but I find lamp stuff more interesting somehow. I wonder why...?

    Blow lamps... if I start on those. On the shelf in my shed there is a Sievert from Sundbyberg with the vertical pump which has to be fixed soon.

    There's a 1936 Primus 96 Stove in the queue first.
    Lead washer and brass gauze to find before firing up.
     
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    It has always amazed me that Stoves get more action than lamps but then I guess I am biased. What really surprises though is the lack of a site for Blow lamp collectors. There are plenty of them out there and I know there is interest in them. For many years I displayed my lamps at steam rallies next door to a good friend who had a great display of blow lamps and he always got more visitors, questions and general interest than I did. ::Neil::
     
  6. Carlsson

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    Yes, it's strange that there isn't any real international blow lamp forum worth the name out there.
    As you say, these items interest a lot of people, including me.
    I don't see any competition between lamps, stoves, blow lamps and other stuff that use the same principle. They are all fun and interesting.

    Why the stove forum get more action is perhaps not so strange. First of all CCS is much more established with a large amount of old users, but it does also attract a large group of people who like to camp or hike.
    It's sort of an outdoor forum aswell.
    And after all, stoves are still much more in use "in real life" than what liquid fuel lamps are.
     
  7. Carlsson

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    I bet it is one of their petrol versions!
    Those are probably the most common. Atleast here in Sweden where they probably are the blowlamps that pop up most often.
    I actually have two under my working bench next to me here at work, which I salvaged from the bin. Both work perfectly (I use n-heptane), but people still keep throwing them away. [-(
     
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    I wonder if in fact it isn't as simple as - stoves you can cook with - make something delicious. Lamps you can see with, that's fine too - brightens up the place, but doesn't put tasty morsels in the belly. Blow lamps - don't see too many groups of folk burning paint off woodwork together do you?
     
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    I've always found them a bit too 'fierce' for that purpose and it's easy to char the wood (or set it on fire if it's gone a bit soft and fibrous with rot. :oops: )

    I've used them for plumbing copper tubing in the past but even that's been replaced by that plastic stuff and push-on fittings...
     
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    Blowlamps to me are amusing. I like the deep roar they often produce, the nasty way they preheat and the awesome nice flame they show.
    I cant help thinking of them as a controlled tablemodel of a jet-engine.
    Collecting them ? - never, but a single one went in the baskett despite that.
    I decided long ago to find a big one, just for the sake of the brutality I need to see sometimes.
    So ScouterBill - if can you post a picture of your blowtorch :?: I might get some inspiration.
    I use a Barthel to light up gasoline-lamps, the small one like this one:

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    I find it so cute, easy and handi, you even can drink snaps when using it O:) .

    Claus C
     

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    Hmm, I don't know - that one looks a bit, er, 'limp-wristed' to me, Claus... =; ;) :lol:
     
  12. Tony Press

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    Primus 607: Fire-breathing dragon!

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    More on this and similar here:

    http://classiccampstoves.com/threads/love-at-first-sight-primus-no-607.28185/page-3

    Cheers

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    Ha you cant use one like Tonys dragon :thumbup: to light up gasolinelamps.
    You can not regulate "The Little Wonder Torch" above while it creates its own pressure from heat it produces, so they are very small then they are always a bit limp :D
    I also wouldnt overshine Scouter Bill [-X , if he wanted to show his, as he started this thread, but that moment is passed according to Tonys Etna :D .

    Claus C
     
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    Just a thought....

    As blowlamps are by definition lamps & pressure lamps even. Might not they deserve a CPL subsection of their own?

    No doubt that is a pain in the @rs£ for the mods to setup so should I get my coat? Maybe it's worth thinking on as a CPL upgrade comes about? Easier to do then perhaps.

    Christer - more about that Sievert soon. I spent time in Sundbyberg so I had a chance to look around for Sievert history - obviously not time but there it goes. I would have gone further afield for Hjorth / Primus sites but sadly no opportunity.

    I thought that blowlamp was fotogen, now you will make me look at it more closely...
     
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    I recall most painter decorators of external woodwork using them before the gassies took over (or was it paint stripper - or did they just say: "Sod it, rub it down with scratch and slap some on quick").

    Just get the paint bubbling and scrape away. Very distinctive smell as you can imagine.
     
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    Sievert did of course make both, but the petrol versions seems to be the ones which pop up more often nowadays.
    I have several of them.
    Give us a picture, and I will tell you which fuel it's meant for. :lol:

    A petrol lamp is usually easy to spot by it's simpler vapouriser.
    When it comes to Sievert, it is mainly a casted piece where burner and vapouriser is one unit. The fuel goes one time from the tank to the front of the burner and then one time back to the jet.
    And as said; All is casted in one piece.

    The paraffin versions have more complex burners.
     
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    Hej Christer, it's taken me a while to get down the shed. Here she is.

    A 114 Vapouria. Petroleum is German for Kero?
    I expected it to read Fotogen but it definitely does not say Benzin.

    The coil in the burner (hard to catch in photo but it is definitely a coil) plus preheat dish are extra clues.

    regards Jon

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  18. Carlsson

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    Yes, that is a paraffin lamp with a coil vapouriser.
    It might be tough to clean out, but if you're lucky the vapouriser isn't too badly coked up.

    We used the word petroleum too in the old days for paraffin, but fotogen would have been more specific.
     
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    Good news! Well as I said it's next up after fettling a 1936 Primus 96 Stove.

    The stove passed the "Tea test" yesterday so I suppose I am looking for the next fettling project!
     

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