Had this lot delivered today ( Like Christmas ) spent the day on it unusual NRV on pump had to turn/twist to get it out. Pressure all good Light her up tomorrow .
Hi Michael, Can't quite see from where I'm sitting, Is that a brass knurled knob on the control cock? Looks like an XN control cock so may be earlier than 1940?... If you undo it there's this mad sock like filter thing that actually works quite well but has definite Heath Robinson lineage Well done on all your bits and the NOS X246 mate Best wishes, pb
There's lots of info around, try searches with 'bayonet nrv' etc or trawl thru the PL53 gallery pics, All good stuff, pb
Thank you pb . Yes a XN control cock Thought it might disintegrate appears to have held up well after clean .
Again the ref. library and try searches with relevant words, there's tons of stuff there, I have a steel (W.W.2) PL53 tank which is also stamped so not just the TL's ; Radiator tanks also and so it goes on :-) pb
Hello Michael, your lamp is pre 1940 and it's probably mid 1930's and the links below show relevant information. It's restored well! PL52-PL53-PL54 8 Tilley control cocks The Tilley Lamp Co. | Classic Pressure Lamps & Heaters
I'm glad that it's of interest and those pumps turn up with different sizes of hexagons fitted to them.
Thanks. PB. And. Jeff. Much information l find it extremely helpful for identifying lamps that l find Also helpful advice when fettling . As for getting the age right. I will leave that to the experts , every time l start digging for info. I get sidetracked But thanks for the links Jeff much to look at cheers
Thought l had it at 1934 topic. # 42. Post # 173 by Pete Sav But the knurled nut on control knob had a concave centre . Saying it was the last of the brass one,s before the Bakelite type . So as you say Jeff early 1930s do me fine thank you
Hi Michael Like Jeff says its going to be a 34/35 lantern age wise I have a pl55 in the gallery with that same control cock Pete
Michael, do you actually collect lamps? Everything you fettle seems to quickly become more eBay fodder. You come and ask questions about identifying a model and how to fettle this and that and if you were a collector I would be fine with that, but if it's just to further line your pockets, then I'm not, but I don't speak for this forum, so for now this is just one person's opinion. HD
No I do not collect Lamps I basically rescue them and it is for my mental benefit it keeps me occupied as I get older The cost ratio for getting parts the cost of having it delivered does not wear the lining of my pocket . I am however getting much satisfaction of recirculating lamps to collectors . I would assume looking at my shed that collector would apply but would not be quite true . If this is not within the scope of CPL. then I best be off then .
I think I'd take a slightly different view. I also don't 'collect' lamps. And I don't peruse the auction sites/junk shops seeking any. My collection of half a dozen are static Collectors at some point may desire to sell much of a collection having had them for many years rather than a few weeks, for various reasons. Along the way, their items appear on the forum and we all share information for the benefit of all, though more for those with less experience generally, or of certain makes and models. Should we keep our secrets secret? Clearly not, as the fettling thread shows. Are we helping someone improve their business? Now there might be something that sticks in the craw, but we have a declaration that that is not the case. Even if it was, I'm not sure I'd find it an issue. Is there a fine line? Or is it a non-event?
Derek l think l understand people have differing ideals on CPL mine is pure life saving for something to do and be enthuestic about. great range of learning and funding the next project . I find it obtuse that l have to explain "my" motives but there we arelife is like that but good point Nice day
I appreciate your honesty Michael. It's not my place to decide if CPL has a place for you and I certainly wouldn't want you to leave solely on my accord. I have said all I have to say on the matter and will leave it that. HD
I don't think it really matters how long anyone actually owns a lamp. OK so this site is primarily for Collectors and restorers but we also provide a for sale section and anyone can offer lamps for sale so we do acknowledge trade. I know that some folk don't seem to like "Dealers" but in truth these are often the people we buy lamps from and I for one appreciate anyone who restores a lamp as well as possible before floging it. However there is one aspect of the game where it does make a difference to me. I have been known to be pretty generous with parts and such to help out another collector and in some cases people have had stuff for little or nothing but I may not want to do that if I know it is part of a commercial venture. So I am quite happy to see a restorer and seller post on this site in order to get it right and fettle lamps to be as correct as possible and also describe them corectly when selling them. I do however like to know if it is part of a commercial venture even if it is just as a hobby rather than a major income generator. ::Neil::
Wise words Neil. Don't worry about not being a collector Michael - neither am I! If someone's acquiring old lamps & enjoying doing them up that's great.
Top of the page, right under "Classic Pressure Lamps", "The online resource for the collector & enthusiast". Note, I'm not taking sides with anyone, but I think it can be said that anyone who buys and restores is an enthusiast.
Michael certainly is a restorer. Following CPL for a few years, I found out that he is one of the members that keeps providing valuable information on the restoration and history of lamps, especially French ones. He does so by asking the right questions, as in this thread. But mostly by sharing his restoration projects. Successes and failures. And he is very helpfull for newcomers as I am. So, thank you Michael, glad that you are here! Gerard
I am used of this mistake : Mickael instead of Michel personnaly, I am a collector AND a seller. I don't think this is a paradox. I often repair and sell the lamps that I find, and if I already have, I sells And if I have a look at the market, this is often the case with collectors I know of. I have always thought that a lamp is better on the market instead of rotting in a cellar. This fettling work also permit to do some money in order to buy some very expensive french lamps by exemple ;-) the principal thing is to save a lot of those old ladies I'll show you soon another of those very old ladies which have cost me a lot.(of money and of work) I don't know anymore who said " money is the nerve of the war" even if this is only an way of talking, this is true.
Well, you're not alone there Michel. Just joking David! One glass too many of the red wine tonight. But Michel and I are kindred spirits, I have a small collection of lamps which I don't intend selling but in order to pay for these I must sell any duplicates or undesirables.
Well, it wasn't really meant to be that funny, Michel. I was just agreeing with what you'd written and trying to say that I admire your fettling skills and enjoy seeing the old lamps you bring back to life. A good-natured way of encouraging you to find more of them, sort them out and show us them here... The humour was in me trying to write in what I call 'Franglais' - unless the French word for sport actually is 'sport', in which case I was writing in perfect French, naturally...
