Hello Claus, i reckon that Matt is correct and the link below shows Neil's example, Jeff. http://0flo.com/index.php?threads/44
Hmmm Matthew, I didnt see that one coming, the hood is not quite like on the gallery of Terry Marsh, but I guess you are right. Never heared of that before - french/English mix. I hope I can fill up with parts from the Bialaddin of England and make a lamp of it. Claus C
I didn't notice the different hood, but that is quite different isn't it. It looks more like the hoods on the older vapalux 300 but the slots are narrower. Sounds like the parts off a bialaddin should fit, as long as the threads are the same. Not sure what the extra bits of metal are for on the cage on Neil's.
Yeah I think the metalbits might be for attaching a parabol or something maybe for hanging it for fishing. But the vapourizer looks strange compared to the normal bialaddin Claus C
I thought that about the vapouriser aswell, but looking at it I think those bits are on the cage too. Notice it comes across in front of the mantle, with one on each cage leg.
I got Lucky - cheating Photo The shock wouldnt let me look closer - I just felt despair. Well spotted Matthew - so I will probably be able to fit a vapourizer from a vapalddin after anyway Claus C
Hi Claus, I also have one of these lanterns and yes, a Vapalux vaporiser will fit. I've seen Neil's lamp and the pieces of metal on the cage are springs which we think are to help protect the glass if the lamp gets knocked, they act like a shock absorber. At least that's what we THINK they are supposed to do. Henry.
Thanks Henry - they looked a bit more solid massive on the Photo liked welded or soldered on, but the spring-trick sounds right to me too. French lamps tends to have those theoretic gadgets, no offence, sometimes. Do you remember how they were attached, while nothing seems to miss on my bars Did they look origin? Claus C
Hi Clause, Well my lantern doesn't have these springs and it's been a while since I saw Neil's lantern but yes, I think the springs were original. The last coil (or two) at both ends of each spring is just curled around the leg. Henry.
Mine is marked on the side of the tank. I reckon these were made by Bi-Aladdin Paris and they used the burner parts from Aladdin UK which were of course Vapalux but the tank for sure and possibly cage and hood were French. Nice rare piece to have because not many have been found so far. ::Neil::
Were these lanterns shipped to France as unassembled parts & W&B made a different top. It does look like they made a top based on the pattern of the old brass ones, the differences being the slot dimensions and it is presumably made of steel. The heat deflector looks ropey, but then they usually are. What you do depends entirely on whether you intend to use the lantern.
No I am pretty sure these are not made in Halifax. This is Aladdin we are talking about and if they wanted an English lantern for sale in Paris it would have been simpler to just import the current Bialaddin. This lantern is clearly heavily influenced by the Bialaddin 305 but only the burner parts appear to be W&B made. There would be no point and some expense to create a unique tank and the Guys at W&B would never have done that. So no I am convinced the main part of MOdel 400F is French made. No doubt it was cheaper to have the majority of it made locally and just import the difficult bits. ::Neil::
Im not sure it is a 400F. The Hood is also not the same. It has the same size as a Petromax 827B. How tall is the 400F. Claus C
Now then Henry - It is worthy for a trip to the hall of fame, The Lampe Reference Gallery. Is yours exactly the same size as Neils? Does other sizes exist like ex. Petromax 500, Petromax 250? What size is yours and Neils in cm.? As written, míne has the exact same size as a Petromax 827B as to be seen here: Looking at my "normal" Bialaddin then it doesent look that small. I also bought the other lamp, Petromax 827B btw. But on the Photo they looks same size - smaller than my normal Bialaddin. Does different sizes of french Bi-Aladdin's exist then? Sorry I cant wait to I get them home so I can compare for real. The green one is at the postoffice now to be collected tomorrow Claus C
Hi Claus, my 400F is 33.5 cm tall. A regular BiAladdin is 34 cm. but the rim at the bottom of the tank is 0.5 cm deeper. The slots in the hood on MY 400F are about 7 mm wide and start just after the hood starts to curve inwards above the air tubes (or, 2 cm below the bottom edge of the cowl). The slots in the hood on a regular BiAladdin are 4.5 mm wide and start about halfway up the chimney (or, about 2 mm below the cowl). Henry.
There are obviously some diffferences and we need to see all of them in the gallery with detailed images of burners Etc. I will have to dig mine out and take some more pictures which I will add to my lamp in the gallery. What I would like to see one day is some paper from Aladdin Paris with these lamps illustrated. ::Neil::
Just now I bought this and I am wondering if it isnt .....?. I dont have it in my hands until tomorrow but it has a long pump and two burners. Cant wait The blurry photo is what I got so far Shouldnt it then be a Akron 107 ? Claus C
You could be right. Hard to tell from the photo, but it could also be an Akron 103. Is the generator (vaporizer) in the shape of an "S"? That's one way of telling if it's even an Akron - but not for sure.. Nice find!
If the pump is a "built-in" type sticking out from the tank several inches it probably is a 107. I believe the 103 models did not have built-in pumps. You had to use an external pump. I have a 103 somewhere around here. I will have to look once I'm out of this "horse collar" they have around my neck. I had to go through cervical spine surgery for the second time!
Cervical spine surgery - you are not supposed to mess around after a lamp George well until you feel good again The generator is a S-shaped and the pump should stick out as Pinocchios nose . I hope my first Akron 107 is to be revealed tomorrow evening. Thanks for help George and with hopes of your good recovery Claus C
