Barnard castle Rally

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  1. Henry Plews

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    David,

    Surely you mean, Trevor and I, or even, at a push, Trevor and myself.

    Anyway, if you happen to wander as far as the awning displays, it'll be nice to see you both.

    Henry.
     
  2. David Shouksmith

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    No, definitely not 'myself' - but I admit I get confused when to use 'I' and 'me'. It wasn't helped by some duff information I got a few years ago from someone who should have known better... ](*,)

    Edit: I think you're incorrect, Henry - according to this, anyway:-

    http://www.bristol.ac.uk/arts/exercises/grammar/grammar_tutorial/page_17.htm

    Imagine the other person isn't there, so delete the bit about Trevor and you get as an answer to your question, 'Yes, me - on the 25th' (Yes, I - on the 25th wouldn't be correct, except for Little Lord Fauntleroy, perhaps).

    Anyway, I look forward to seeing you on the 25th, whether or not I have Trevor with me... ;) :lol:
     
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    They do say educational standards have slipped over the years. Bristol's examples don't sit right with me. :-k

    And maybe little Lord Fauntleroy would have used the Royal 'we'! ;)
     
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    Good morning David,

    I stand corrected. :-#

    Henry.

    Edit: I hope that this hasn't earned me detention.
     
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    Typical. Just ignore/delete Trevor!

    David and I will be there on the Sunday.
     
  6. David Shouksmith

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    I think what it is, Derek, is that you hear it wrong so often that it then becomes normal or accepted so seems 'right' because it no longer offends the ear (although actually grammatically incorrect). There is a word for this phemonenon but it escapes me at present...

    Still, we've been down this road before and it's borne no fruit (if I might be allowed to mix my metaphors for a moment...) ;) :lol:
     
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    http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/words/i-or-me

    Cheers

    Tony
     
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    Change?
     
  9. David Shouksmith

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    No, for that situation specifically rather than in the general sense as you suggest...
     
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    The Oxford dictionaries definition that Tony posted gets my thumbs up.
     
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    If you are going to Barnard Castle it will have to be by road. It seems it has lost both train stations.
     
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    Yes, I think the railway links were lost in the early '60s, if not before. Consequently, it's not exactly breaking news. ;) :lol:

    Edit: Mid-'60s, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barnard_Castle_railway_station refers...
     
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    While we are talking about railways I think that the 'Autumn Steam Gala' at Shildon will be good this weekend.

    http://www.nrm.org.uk/planavisit/events/autumn-steam-gala
     
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    But train stations David?
     
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    :-s :? What about them, Ross? - they've been gone for over 50 years...
     
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    http://www.dougrose.co.uk/not_a_train.htm
     
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    That's a lot of nonsense.

    Railway and bus stations are places where passengers - who are indeed 'customers' - can board or alight from said means of transportation. They are not usually places where said vehicles are kept though, they are sheds, garages, or in the case of electric traction - depots.
     
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    Ross got it!
    Seems perfect proof of the theory David posted.
     
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    :-s :? What theory was this? :-s :?
     
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    To the best of my knowledge (and searching ability), David has never used train station on CPL.
     
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    My uneducated understanding of the 'train' point was that it was an example of the phenomenon David mentioned rather than pulling him up for it's use:

     
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    Who says you are unejucatid?

    I wonder if David's word was 'propaganda'? As in: tell a lie often enough and it becomes accepted as the truth.
     
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    Can 'politician-speak' be counted as one word?
     
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    Nothing can make "train station" less offensive.

    Please would someone tell the BBC.
    They seem to have given in. There is no hope.

    Someone must have "gifted" them modern speak.

    I lose the will to live. It's all right. I'll probably be dead soon.
    Until then ](*,)
     
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    Perfectly correct, Trevor - I haven't.

    In fact, I used the expression in speech for years and I well remember the first time I used it when I was but a callow youth of 19. I'd been hitching lifts from college in London and got stuck at Doncaster. Eventually, there was no other option but to walk into the town centre and seek the railway station. But I thought I was a real 'cool dude' asking the locals where the train station was situated. Their bewilderment was palpable.

    I used the expression for about 20 years until I finally realised I was living in England which hadn't yet become the 51st* state of the USA...

    * or however many it is they've got up to, +1. (shrugs shoulders and wanders off...)
     
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    Just give up on the BBC Jon, I have what with every linear measurement in metres and kilometres. I'm surprised they haven't pushed for twenty hour days instead of 24. So, 'train stations' now is it? Always had railways going through them in my day.

    Trevor - it's 'politspeak'. They can keep that too.
    http://www.counterpunch.org/2016/01/08/the-politspeak-of-social-carrying-capacity/

    David, see Al Murray on Americans. I'd put a link up but chances are it would offend!
     
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    But I haven't expressed any opinions about "Americans". [-X :)

    It would be fair to infer from my comments that I'm uncomfortable with the progressive Americanisation of the United Kingdom (Disunited Queendom?) but that's a different thing altogether...
     

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