Coal fire even though we have oil,heating- small 16 inch fireplace I'd love a decent sized multi fuel stove like we had as a child. Benzin - Vergaser BVB pressurised petrol in large volume- what could possibly go wrong Petromax repo -hmmm ok Petromax 1960's can't wait to fettle Bialaddin brass 1947- can't wait to receive it Pork pie Tilley table lamp- progressing slowly with kids Two Tilley table lamps to fettle Burmos blow lamp- never had a use for it other than lighting it to test- but cleaned and aged looks smart. Something you don't get with led torches and central heating
Fits a 16" fireplace: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Dimplex-Westcott-Inset-Solid-Fuel-Stove-WST4I-Wood-Burner-4kw-Collection-Only/232103909151?_trksid=p2047675.c100011.m1850&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D38661%26meid%3Dd31ea6406bfa4f47b7c89068d28e0bf9%26pid%3D100011%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D9%26sd%3D231389734778
That looks rather smart, I'm guessing the chimney would want a stainless steel liner- I will have to put that on my would like list
If you have an existing flue and chimney that works well, a liner may not be necessary. Advice from someone who specialises in chimneys is better than advice from someone who specialises in selling you something you don't need. Henry.
Yes, some landlords are fearful of negating their property insurance when solid fuel stoves are installed into open fireplaces. If a stove output is less than 5kw then no liner is compulsory, though a chimney test (using smoke pellets) might need to be done to check for leaks through the chimney into loft and walls. Burning wood can produce bituminous products that can attack mortars and cause leaching into roof space, which in turn can lead to black stains on upper floor ceilings, that's when you will need a liner. And liners themselves can be of varying quality. Poor ones may need replacing after just a couple of years. Good ones may be guaranteed for five, but even that's not long. We had an antique French stove that I fitted in our open fireplace and it worked without fuss or drama for several years. Then one day last year, the landlord phoned to ask if we still had an open fire, and if not did the installation carry contemporary certification as their insurance would be null and void if not. Now we are back to open an fire with a less efficient burn, and wasted heat escaping with stronger induced draughts around the house. We also have a solid fuel Rayburn in the kitchen which mostly burns smokeless, but also household rubbish and whatever sticks we fetch back from dog walking. The chimney for that is not lined, but for whatever reason that Rayburn is taken off its plinth, putting it back again would require a chimney liner to comply with regulations. Leave it alone and it's OK as the install was done before a certain date. Same chimney, same stove. Needless to say it's staying put. I sweep our chimneys twice a year. How long before I'm stopped from doing that by 'regulations'? Some regulations are done for safeties sake, some seem to weigh in favour of so called "accredited craftsmen" who can turn up with a lack of tools, knowledge, and ability. Sometimes training and licensing doesn't always mean a guarantee of safety. If anyone has a few hours to spare and want to watch exchanges of views about and from HETAS qualified engineers: http://www.diynot.com/diy/threads/hetas-engineers-a-bunch-of-lying-so-and-sos.298134/ Be warned; it's 13 pages long and spans 5yrs!
Wow I never realised the political costs involved. Sounds like get a price and if ridiculous then look a doing myself with building control notice for insurance if not a flueless insert. I'm in construction industry and an electrician and have a semi retired builder friend
