New Tilley 606 Vapouriser

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  1. JonD

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    Much too close for comfort there Neil.
    Commiserations on the casualties.
     
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    Dear old X246B has found a new way to taunt me.

    The vapouriser has done at most 6hours after the decoke. Last night it began to dim again. That seemed a bit soon. Investigating the top would not come off. Spigot stuck on vapouriser.

    Humph! Not pleased.

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    I can get it out all right by squashing down the bulge but I reckon it's dead now.

    I'll use the cleaning wire from it (which is OK) in the other body I have and see how that fares.
     

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    I too have thrown caution to the winds and invested in a quality made product from Tilley International!

    Hurrah!
    :doh:
    pb
     
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    We really need to talk PB!!

    Tonight I have just posted elsewhere about about my sad X246B... It has been through two of the new Vaps. Why??

    I want to understand what happens. If it's down to the fuel - how come?

    I'm thinking it's about the temperature of the vap tube up near the burner. Too hot and it balloons up perhaps?

    Why it is too hot is another question. Thin gauge material or not enough contact with the spigot to remove heat? I don't know.
     
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    Really?

    very kind of you, the nights are starting to draw in a little.. :-(
     
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    Er? I know.
    Fuel consumption is telling me so.

    I'm curious to know what happens with your 606.
    Did you think something else?
     
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    when it finally arrives and is fitted in place i will tend to it with care and also keep a record of the hours...
    not using the pricker as a fuel shut off may help things, I always unscrew the filler and lower the pressure to extinguish the lantern

    pb
     
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    :-k Surely that's an oxymoron... ;) :lol:
     
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    We can but dream, or hope as such it is?

    Anyway I've recently been promoted from oxymoron :)

    Pb
     
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    Hope your 606 works OK.
    I still think mine probably overheated.

    I have sawn the end off it now leaving about a 2" stump of the bottom. I plan to convert it to running petromax jet and needle when I can get access to some machining tech.

    At some point I was planning to section the bulge to see what went on inside. I might do that today if time permits.
     
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    Jon...the new vapouriser has done about 12 hrs over the summer and should get more use now the days are shorter, will keep you posted...

    Still working fine :thumbup:

    pb
     
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    I'm pleased about that PB. Keep it burning and clocking up the hours!
     
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    Hello all,

    I've just been given a X246A from 1962 that needs a new vapouriser. On the Tilley website it suggests a 7" one, but the one from my lamp iscloser to 5 1/2". II've sent a message to them asking about this but I've not had a reply. Does anyone here know which one I should get and, in light of the above conversation, where from please?

    Thanks in advance.
     
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    @60GT

    It's the 5 1/2 inch one. The No.606 vapouriser.

    Cheers

    Tony

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    @60GT,

    I just checked Tilley's website here:

    Paraffin pressure lamp spare parts

    It clearly says that the 606 is the vapouriser for the X246B. The X246A was its predecessor. Where is the info that you saw?
     
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    I just put a new 606 from Tilley on my X246 and its working fine. Only about 3 hours running time with it but no problems at all.
     
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    Hi Tony,

    Thanks for the reply. The information was on the Tilley website......

    Vaporiser - 7inch and it says '7 inch vaporiser. This item is for other lamps not the Stormlight X246B models'

    So Tilley are saying the 7" is for the X246A, mine measures 5", and you also recommend 5". I am thinking that you are correct. Could it be that I have a 246A base and a 246B upper assembly?

    Also, where can I get the best quality vapouriser from? I don't want to go cheap and risk it failing. Thanks again for your help.

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    I reckon it wants the 606. But I'm not sure what to recommend about sourcing one of those.
    I still have an X246B that seems to eat them for breakfast...

    I think I have 4x 606s - each of 3x replacements cost much more than the X246B to put them in.
    Only one is any good - the one that is unfired.

    One (original) is sawn in half thinking about adding a brass jet like Loco7Lamp and the Korean version (expensive to buy).

    One is needle punched right through the jet (modern) I can't remember where this one is now..(don't care)

    One is stuck in the burner spigot and it won't come out so I have no spigot. It know it leaks at the join between tube and valve connecting thread.
    (A Dunmurray one but I have thumped it well to remove it from spigot - no success so far)

    The last is another Dunmurray one NIB (New in box) and it will stay that way due to lack of any spigot to use with it.
    << This is the good one referred above!

    Glutton for punishment. (I seem to think there is the remains of another modern one somewhere -
    I don't want to think about it any more. Lamp sulks in the shed. No spigot no vapouriser. I sulk in the house new Vapouriser but no spigot)
     
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    I'm starting to get that sinking feeling.
     
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    Sorry. If yours is not an X246B the sages say that you should do better.
    I don't know what it is about mine.

    It seems to me I should have bought the expensive brass one from Korea. If I had fitted that the first time, and it was true to what is said here, it would have worked and I would be a lot richer than I am now.... but it would still be modified not genuine.

    I wouldn't mind if I ran it on RP1 and LOX but I don't.
     
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    You need the 606 (5 inch) vapouriser for your X246A.

    Tilley website is not so clear, I see in retrospect: the 606 fits any (unmodified) X246, X246A and X246B. I think Tilley's intention was to make sure people bought the correct spare for their only new lamp, the X246B.

    I'll say this again: I have not had any problems using the new No. 606 vapourisers available from Tilley in the UK. Many people here complain about them, but I've fitted quite a few now, and I operate two regularly. But: I don't use an X246B (only X246 and X246A).

    One thing I do regularly on all my operating lanterns (each month or so), is to clean carbon off the pricker rod and put carburettor cleaner down the vapouriser. Countries that have low grade kerosene appear to have trouble with Tilley vapourisers. Luckily I use jet fuel which is very clean.

    I have the steel Korean 606 with the brass nipple. It works well.

    Cheers

    Tony
     
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    Thanks for that. Since I posted previously, I found the specs in the reference section and saw that it is the 606. Thanks for your help. I'm going to order one tomorrow and hopefully the mantles, seals and vapouriser will be with me soon so that I can get it going.

    I've never been even remotely interested in these things until my neighbour gave me this one a few weeks back, and now I'm drooling over all of the polished brass lamps. Just when my wife got me to start downsizing all of my band equipment......
     
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    If you want advice, just ask; but there are plenty of good examples of fettling X246s in the Fettling section of CPL.

    This might be some help as it shows all the components of a standard X246 (your components will be the same or similar). But you won't need to do all the fiddle repair work that I did:

    Original X246 Fettle

    One piece of advice, though. If your burner (that fits in the hood, and that the vapouriser fits into) is clean (no wasps or spiders) and it's components are tight, don't pull it to pieces. Just make sure the airtubes and spigot are firmly tight (don't overtighten).

    Cheers

    Tony
     
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    On the Coleman site there were 3 cases of the spigot stuck onto the vaporizer, 2 Vapalux and 1 Tilley. The common denominator was the fuel used. Its heater fuel and may burn so hot perhaps that's its fusing the parts together.

    So maybe its not the 606 vap that's the issue but the fuel you are putting through them that's causing them issues?
     

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