Radius No.143

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  1. Mick Emm

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    Radius short table lamp or maybe its a hanging lamp or possibly an indoor storm lamp !

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  2. Carlsson

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    Yep! It's pretty much any of those.
    It's called a Radius No.143 when it's based on the No.21 stove, so I added that in your heading for the searchability in the future.
     
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  3. Mick Emm

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    Hi ! Thanks Christer for your help !...mick
     
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    My pleasure Mick!

    Have you had it running?
    Quite lovely little lamps, these. They don't make much noice, but then again; they don't make much light either. :lol:
     
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    Hi ! No , I've not tried to light the lamp as the glass in it has optimus etched into it and is very thin and I guess impossible to replace if cracked ,it just sits on the shelf looking very short between my primus 995 and primus 1010...mick
     
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    I had mine running. Evil little beast to fettle but after a serious sort out of the generator it ran OK. Neat little lamp that sits on a shelf in my bedroom. ::Neil::

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    Yes, they are really neat.
    If I recall correctly what Albert (a Swedish collector) has told me, these had atleast three different suppliers for the glass; French Sibor (?), German Schott and actually a Swedish one - Nife. Can you see which one you two have on yours?

    I see that you miss the fibre wheel on your lamp Neil. I think I have a bunch of those somewhere, and can send you one if you wish.
     
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    If we want to be picky, then this should probably go in the outdoor lighting section. The 143 and 145 were lanterns and the 146 and 148 were the lamp versions.

    Unfortunately my 143 isn't complete so I havn't had it running.
     
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    Yes, agreed. Moved
     
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    That 143 picture was of the first of these I had which has since been traded out and I think now belongs to Henry Plews. I got a second one in better condition so as you do I upgraded. This one has a plastic wheel and I don't know if that is correct for the model. If it is not then a fibre type would be very welcome. The globe as you can see is an Optimus so not correct anyway. ::Neil::

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    That's tricky. I have no clue how long they made the 143, and if the plastic wheel are original.
    Anyone who can tell?

    Another thing! I've seen that a lamp/lantern looking like this also was called No.123.
    I assume that they are earlier, but how do you tell the difference between a 123 and a 143?
     
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    The last reference I have for the 143 is a 1945 catalogue, so it could be either type wheel then. If they made them for a few years after it's quite likely that some did get plastic wheels.

    The 123 is mentioned in a 1931 catalogue together with the 121 which was the indoor lamp. They look pretty much like the 143 as we know it. I get the idea that these numbers only referred to the lamp adapter, not the whole thing complete with stove. I have also seen a 1937 brochure where they mention a 130 and 131 and a 140 and 141. Also just the adapters. The first time I've seen the 143 etc numbers is in a 1939 catalogue. Very confusing, but more paperwork is needed.
     
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    I have also seen the 130 and 131 (but then with an 'F' afterwards), and they were clearly the sole light adapters without any tank whatsover.

    But as you suggest, this also goes for the 121 and 123 now when I look closer on another catlogues sheet.
    There it's quite obvious that N:o 121 and 123 must be the adapters alone since they specify them as e.g. N:o 123 - Fitted on the stove container N:o 21 B.
    And further down in the specs, there are just a blank in the field where the fuel capacity should be, suggesting that this must depend on where you actually will put the device.
     
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    Hi mick just sent me these to post on the lamp

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    Okay mick
     
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  15. Mick Emm

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    The glass on my lamp is schotts with optimus etched into glass.
    The Australian advert above is not very clear, its 1930 .....mick
     
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    Since the Radius 143:s jet (#130/28) and cleaning needle (#130/87) are hard to come by.
    Do you think they could be replaced by the Radius 119 counterparts (#119/28 and #119/87)?

    Or will the 119 parts not fit the 143:s cleaning needle tube (#130/05) and vapourizer (#130/34)?
     
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    The thread fits, but the jet size is too big. I have not had success when trying these parts.
     
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    Any other alternatives?
    How about using the Optimus 200/Radius 102 jet (#102/28) and cleaning needle (#102/87).
    This jet has a hexagonal shaped head but perhaps it can be trimmed to fit the gas mixer (#140/46) above the vaporizer?

    Here is a high resolution version of the previously attached Radius 143 spare parts list.
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