Tito Landi Lamp No. 42

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  1. Junichi Kitano

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    I am writing from Japan.
    I got Tito Landi Lamp No. 42.
    Is the glass of this lamp Pyrex glass?
    We are planning to reprodax glass in Japan.
    There is a regulated Pyrex glass pipe in Japan.
    It is long by length, so you can cut it.
    (Glass outer dimension 90 mm, thickness 2.4 mm, height 160 mm)
    The glass is being quoted.
    I hope it will be cheaper ......
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    Welcome aboard!:thumbup:
     
  3. Junichi Kitano

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    Hello JEFF
    I posted it for the first time. Thank you.
     
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    Hi Junichi,
    I have 3 Tito Landi #42, and only one with original glass.
    Pyrex will fit. In France, such a glass cost about 90/110€. So I am very interested in your research.
    What kind of mantle did you use ?
     
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    Hi Sellige33
    Thank you for your reply.
    Wow! ! Do you have the original glass?
    Does the glass contain Tito marks?

    Japanese glass also has a pipe of Pyrex, it has the same outside diameter and the length is 1400 mm, so it must be cut with a length of 160 mm.
    In France, it is a glass of reproduction, it is about € 90/100.
    I will write it here if I know the estimate of Japan.

    Installation of the mantle is serious. I used Petromax, Coleman, Camping gaz mantle, but because it hangs, it is very easy to collapse.
    The old mantle of Aladdin thought that the length was exactly good.

    How do you install the mantle?
    Because there is no original mantle, I am very interested in how to install.
     
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    Hi Junichi,
    Yes i have an original glass, with the Tito marks, but very thin, almost ghostly, an image below
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    I made two models to install mantles, one made with washers ( used with Camping gaz Mantle type L ) and an other made with 18mm copper tube ( used with 2 holes Petromax mantles ). I have Coleman #95 Instaclip mantle, but not tested at this time.
    Some pictures of support and lanterns
    20170925_172231.jpg 20170930_192537.jpg 20171002_175544.jpg 20180317_151642.jpg 20180326_142354.jpg

    If you are interested in Tito Landi, a friend of mine Michel ( subscriber on CPL too ) made this site:
    lampes a pression, petrole,essence,alcool, chauffage rechauds
    It's a french site, but very interesting, good read with Google translation !!!
     
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    awesome piece
     
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    A lovely lantern , very ingenious problem-solving with the mantle too! RxR
     
  9. David Shouksmith

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    You may already know this but Tito Landi lamps originally had a conducting rod which slotted into the top of the burner tube. This had a 'Y-shaped' yoke at the top and the mantles hung from that. This rod is loose and held in place by gravity only so it is usually lost. I've got a couple somewhere and I'll find them in either 5 minutes or 5 years, depending on whether they are where I think they are! Anyway, as its name suggests, the rod also had another function to conduct heat from the burning mantle down to the vapourisation chamber where fuel coming up from the tank via capillary action in the wick was converted into vapour which travelled up to the mantle for combustion.

    If I recall correctly, TLs were fuelled by either alcohol (=spirit) or petrol/gasoline i.e.'essence' as the French would call it. You can tell the difference by the size of the orifice in the nipple. There the memory fails... :doh: :-& :cry:

    Edit: I found one of my TLs within five minutes but, unfortunately, it had no conducting rod present :doh:I do, however, have an original glass chimney for a TL table lamp and I know exactly where that is is anyone needs measurements...
     
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    This is my 6000th post on the site - sorry, I couldn't resist! ;) :lol:
     
  11. Junichi Kitano

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    Hi Sellige 33
    Thank you very much for your kind help.
    Wow! Original glass. It is very helpful. I also understood how to hang the mantle.
    This website is amazing. informative.
    I am bad at English and I am sorry.
    I am very thankful and I am grateful. Thank you very much.
     
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    TLs were fuelled by either petrol/gasoline or spirit. Neither paraffin.
    The orifice in the nipple is bigger for spirit.
    I have TL2, TL33 and TL42 in both fuels.

    Junichi, you are welcome!
     
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    Hello David
    Thank you for your interesting opinion.
    The lamp of Tito Landi has a conductive rod originally plugged into the top of the burner pipe.
    This lamp should be brighter, but it is hard to install the mantle.
    I am also interested in fuels. It is very helpful.
    Thank you for your kind explanation.

    Best regards
     
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    Thank you for everyone for helping me, I appreciate it.
    Thank you in the future.
    Best regards
     
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    @David Shouksmith

    These measurements would be good to have please.

    Regards, Jeremy
     
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    Hi X246A,
    TL42 Ø90x160
    TL2 TL3 TL33 Ø48X200
     
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    Well mine is 48mm outside diameter and 152mm tall - I've no idea if the odd 8mm in height between mine and Sellig33's glass will make any difference. Neither have I any idea which model my Tito Landi lamps are but it fits all of them as far as I'm aware...
     
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    Hi David,
    Difference between 152 and 200 is 48mm :mrgreen: y're sure it's 152mm ?
     
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    I'm absolutely sure it's 152mm - but when fitted to a scrap Tito Landi recently unearthed from my greenhouse…

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    ...perhaps it does look a little short. :-k

    I've no idea, really, except the chimney came with a much nicer TL lamp and I've always assumed it was a genuine one. There are no markings on the glass tube at all. Zut alors… :whistle:
     
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    These lamps do not need a long chimney. I took one length from an old paper which stated 182 mm length.
    A longer chimney would build up too much draft and make the burner do some strange sounds.

    Erik
     
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    It's just occurred to me that the lamp I pictured above is probably a Tilto Landi… ;) :lol:

    What worries me about the glass chimney is not so much the length as the diameter. Obviously that's correct otherwise it wouldn't sit snugly in the burner but it seems awfully close to the mantle. Mind you, TLs aren't exactly fierce burners... ](*,)
     
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    You're right Erik, 182mm is the original lenght, and Ø48mm
    New one ( Pelam.de ) is Ø48x200 mm.
     
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    Hi folks

    Thanks for the information.

    Reasonable price from Pelam at €9.99 plus €16.00 shipping.

    Regards, Jeremy
     
  25. Erik Leger

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    When I still worked at hytta.de, I ordered several batches of chimneys for upright incandescent lamps such as Hasag No.2, E&G or simple upright gas lamps. When we decided upon the dimensions we decided to have original size chimneys made.

    H.S. No. 2: (I did not have my own website when I got that lamp many years ago) or
    Kriegslicht E&G These lamps use a chimney of 48 (diam.) x 250 mm
    See: Hytta.de ( FIE-3325 )
    For the Tito Landi lamps: FIE-3946.

    Erik


     

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