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  1. nagant

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    I need to get this apart. how do i get the globe cage off? instructions I've found say to loosen generator nut above the cleaning needle wire handle but mine seems to be below it.where do i start on the air tube? 1312931405-000_0643_opt.jpg Paint came off with 3M paint stripper, nickle is better than i hoped. 1312931546-000_0644_opt.jpg 1312931640-000_0645_opt.jpg 1312931670-000_0646_opt.jpg
     

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    Ah yes made me smile because I remember trying to work this out myself a number of years ago.

    Easy really. Remove the generator and then grip the foot of the air tube and unscrew. The whole inner plate turns with it and eventually the air tube and burner lifts off and you can then remove the inner plate and the hex nut under that to remove the globe cage. ::Neil::
     
  3. nagant

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    Now you made me smile :thumbup: Thanks,Brice.
     
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    Yeah. Blindinly obvious once you know. A real puzzzle until you do though. ::Neil::
     
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    Ah, yes - I've been meaning to ask this very question for a while now, so thanks!

    The 'trouble' with these Quiklites is, of course, that they usually work more-or-less straight out of the box with minimal or no fettling, hence I'd never had to take one apart. I did often wonder vaguely how they'd dismantle but thought I'd cross that bridge when I came to it.

    Well, I arrived there some months back, when I came across a right manky example of the breed, but no amount of searching on the interwebbly thingie revealed the answer. :doh: The jamb nut on the generator is easy, but that '8-shaped' washer thingie!!! ](*,) So it just all unscrews around the central boss, then..?

    The lantern's still around here somewhere, so the next time it reveals itself to me, I'll get it sorted! :thumbup:
     
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    I suppose it's one of those things that all the Americans know but we don't see so many of them so we tend not to have to dismantle one often.

    Yes that figure 8 fitting at the bottom of the burner air tube is threaded and the whole burner unit just unscrews. Once you have it loose you can turn the thing from the top but the air tube is also screwed into the 8 so really you need to turn from the bottom. The centre plate is not fixed to it though. However it will turn with the burner until it is free. Don't forget to remove the generator first or you will bend it. ::Neil::
     
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    Held pressure all last night! should be running soon :D/ I can figure out Coleman 200's and most Coleman camp stoves but the pre 1950 stuff is not my strong suit. ;) what had me unsure was the generator. whats the no. of this. 1312994153-000_0647_opt.jpg I thought the nut would be above the valve. is there a gallery of the diferent Coleman generators anywhere? also the base plate doesn't have the arched cut out on the edge i see on other QL's, what are they for? and the top nut isn't drilled through. no markings other then on the collar. a small circle on bottom but no visible markings. does that help date it better? thanks for your help,Brice
     

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    i found its a r55, but it has leak. If i cant fix it will a q77 fit? they are about the cheapest but doesn't come with the nut.
     
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    Think you need a Q99 or R55 for this lamp the one you have is good as it has in built pricker

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    Thanks Pete. I must have cracked it or the crack was plugged with grime. it held air pressure overnite but when i fueled it up started leaking.
     
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    Yes that is an R55. The original for these was a Q99 but a Q77 will certainly work OK. If the nut is missing and you have a scrap R55 then cut the tube and use the one from that. Same fitting so it has to fit a Q99 or Q77.

    These Quick-Lites from the 1920s are about as simple as it gets. Much easier than the 200. Just add fuel, pump some, add a match and open the valve.

    This is an Air-O-Lantern QL so the only markings will be on the collar. The cut out on later lamps is to make pumping easier so that cut out should be over the filler. Makes no difference to the running of it though and anyway you have an earlier and rather more collectible lantern than a later QL. ::Neil::
     
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    thanks, the r55 might be leaking thru the packing nut. will give it a closer look. looked at the gallery and i now i gotta have a mica globe =P~
     
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    I got lucky! had an old AGM 2 mantle in the basement that had a R55 gen. switched it out and it popped right off. smooth running and no pulsing at all. sorry about the pics, cell phone close up and the other is my camera battery dieing. 1313301639-08-14-11_001_opt.jpg there's a air o lantern in this whiteout 1313301808-000_0650_opt.jpg
     

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    Very good. Strictly speaking an R55 lookalike from an AGM is AGM generator 109. They are not quite the same but do fit and work OK in Coleman stuff. The converse is also true that an R55 works in AGM lamps. ::Neil::
     
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    Good to know they interchange. here's the Agm in action on the Coleman 1313352405-000_0652_opt.jpg
     

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    Well I suspect that proves the point because I think that is actually a Coleman R55 which had been used on an AGM. The AGM generator has a longer lower tube than the Coleman and that one looks short to me like an R55. Makes no difference of course. ::Neil::
     

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