Good Evening All Just spent the past month getting my summer buys sorted . Always wanted a pork Pie model Got all the bits together and bought a PP tank.First question I suppose is doe's an X246 cage fit a Pork Pie tank . I bought what was the best tank on offer, did not skimp, the threads appear to be pointing outwards on the tank. I have read a past threads on this and it appears to be a blown tank , the guy was good about it and I got my money back . From what he is saying ( insistant ) is that the pick up points for the cage threads are kinked inwards and that there is a specific way to put them on clockwise or ac ? anyway I can see on the bay these Pork pie lamps with kinked ends to fit these outward facing threads . I did give it a go and it was putting to much stress on the cage welds Have I got this wrong somehow ?
@Scotlamp I have a couple of X246 “Pork Pies” that look like that. I managed to get the cage on and off with some fiddling around. If you look in the Reference Gallery I have posted all my Pork Pies there. When this matter was discussed some time ago, someone here in Australia (it could have been @Lamp_Doctor or @Graham P ) said that they had gently forced the top of the tank down and back into shape. In that discussion it was said the tanks may have been over pressurised, but those tanks are pretty heavy and solid: I wonder whether that slight raising of the top surface of the tank is not from them having been hung up (full) for a long time... Tony
I’m working on a similar late Pork Pie, the threads are also slightly out of alignment with the cage.
The thing is if the tank is blown . It seems to me the only place it could move is at the soldered threads with a combination of heat and pressure .. The weakest part appears to be the top convex area .The rest of the tank seems to be solid .
@Scotlamp Having worked on a few of these, I doubt that they could “blow” at the threaded posts. If they’ve moved out from the vertices (rather than the tank being pressed with a slightly curved surface from the outset), it seems to me that the whole top surface will have had to become more convex (as observed from the edge the tank). [I’m referring here to the flat surface of the top of the tank, not the dome in the middle). Cheers Tony
Yes I can see what you mean quite flat Something got to give to make them point outwards there was no way I was getting tha cage on Without splaying the legs out andyou can see in the picture one leg was bent out It would not look right for 4 legs sticking out and the stress on the upper part of the cage would result in a parting of the way .
There is nothing wrong with the pork pie base if you measure the distance between thread centres its about 95 mm .If you measure up where first ring meets the uprights it is 90mm .So you have to just pull a little bit on the leg to make it fit .When screwing the knurls onto threads just start each one the screw them down bit at a time . Bob .
Sorry Bob. If you look at the picture you can see l have done exactly what you say. The first one landed ok going clockwise you can see the obvious outwards slant on the leg and the obvious tilt on the socket . It is not a match and clearly l must have been using a different cage than everyone else or the landing threads are bent outwards at production it's a fault of some sort . And no way was it designed to have code for fitting it on . My attempt at having a pork pie lamp is curtailed for the present.
You are worrying about nothing here. I have seen a few of these and they are all pretty much like yours. The threads do lean out slightly and you have to pull the cage legs out a bit to fit. All sounds pretty normal to me and anyway the steel will bend without causing any problems. Shove a brown lid on it and you have a type 3 Pork Pie X246.
