This is the most recent addition to my collection, I obtained it today. It will require restoration, but the tank still had fuel and pressure in it, Jeff.
MY MY MY! Can't wait to see this all shined up and BURNING! Sweet score Jeff! The Green Book says that a 329 shade was the one for this. The hanger loop I'd wager is placed to balance THAT weight of shade. Bob
Hello Bob & Juan, the burner is not the original one. Someone has fitted a Coleman paraffin burner and an R55 generator, so that paraffin could be used, most British folk are not keen on petrol as a lamp fuel. This is a rare beast and I'm glad to have rescued it. Just out of interest, how much does this lamp sell for in the USA? Jeff.
Hi Jeff, IF EVEN SEEN? Priceless! In a restored state I've seen BQ and PQ sell for several hundred dollars. By the looks of the valve body I think that the "figure eight" nut that holds the air tube/burner can be replaced with that of a CQ lamp or even a QL lantern to make it "correct". That mixing chamber came off a lamp of the late 40s as it's the stamped sheet metal type. I first saw these on a 152 lamp and late 220/228C lanterns. Just after WWII vintage. Bob
Hello Bob, thanks for the information and yes this model does not turn up often, but Coleman made over 5000 of them, so I reckon that there are more survivors around. Click on the link below to see Neil's information on this lamp. 1922-1924 Coleman HQ I wonder if the Coleman shiping records for this model have survived, if so, then one would know which areas to search in. I'm not really surprised to find an HQ., in Shetland; this is because I have found all of the other Coleman models from that period here. For example, Coleman wall lamp (BQ), Coleman chandelier (PQ) Coleman table lamp (CQ), Coleman lantern (LQ). I found several CQs and 2 BQs. This is the first HQ though; the PQs were used to light schools in Shetland within living memory. Jeff.
Jeff they are so rare in the US I couldn't place a value on it. An arm or a leg or first born would probably be in the neighborhood.
Hello Dan and Karli and Doron, thanks for your interest and responses. Hello Dan, do you go to farm sales? In the UK., lamps are often found at those sales, most rural folk don't throw things away, because those things will be useful sometime and if you do get rid of them you shall soon be in need of them. Hello Karli, you shall have to keep wishing! Hello Doron, thanks for the offer and I shall let you know if I need that burner, Jeff.
Actually I have to make a day trip out of it.I am on the western side of the state.I have New York to the north,Pennsylvania to the west,Delaware to the south and the Atlantic ocean to the east. PA has the largest Amish community Delaware also has a large Amish group and the New York area is over a hundred miles away. You never find dusty barn finds where there are Amish. They still use the Coleman and when they finish using it, its tired!
Hello Dan, so Ebay saves you a lot of traveling and the expense of traveling. It's useful for us all, but I still enjoy going to a live auction, Jeff.
There were two of these sold on eBay around 6 or 8 years ago in the US. As I recall they made around $250 each. I know of five in the US now and this find of Jeff's makes four in the UK. Not common for sure but Jeff and I do know a UK collector with a spare. Please don't ask though as I am not about to start passing on offers. ::Neil::
Fantastic Find Jeff. I've only seen images. A Rare Bird. Cannot put a price tag on 'er. Congratulations on your good fortune!! I am sure we will see it burn some day :-)
Hello Glenn, yes, it's a good find and it's now in the hands of a collector, rather than hanging in a shed, where it had hung for decades! I intend to restore it when the weather improves, it's still far to cold in my shed. All going well, I shall post photos of the restored beast, Jeff.
Hi all ,i have one of these things i did know it was a coleman but was'nt sure how rare they where but now i know never tried to light it but now i will and post some pics.. PS I SAW ONE SELL ON EBAY FOR £5OO + ABOUT 3 YEARS AGO kenny..
I wondered how you pump these up? Does one need to build a "bracket" to hang it from so that it can be pumped up, hung, then lit? Is it meant to be hung from a ceiling hook, or a longer wall mounted bracket? It has no base or feet to stabilize it for pumping. Maybe that's why it didn't catch on so to speak. Bob
Bob you had to clench it between your thighs and work the pump like mad. That is why they weren't popular. Dan
They are indeed evil little beasts to get air into. I cheated and used the tyre inflator on my compresser. Pain to do and not every one can do this because it is a difficult trick if you don't have a compresser. Handy though because I can presurise to 30psi fairly accurately. ::Neil::
Another way to make pumping easier, is to fit a valve from a bicycle tube to the Coleman valve. The Coleman pressure release screw has to be removed to allow this. Then fit a flexible connection to the bike tube valve and then pump with a bicycle pump. Jeff.
It's now restored as well as it can be, the Shetland climate is as unkind to nickel plating as it is to everything else! In my opinion it looks okay, for a lamp that's over 80 years old, Jeff.
In these photos the shade carrier is fitted upside down, but I have since fitted it the proper way, Jeff.
Jeff. Wrong shade carrier anyway. That type is for the inner glass protector globe under a parchment type shade. Those lamps used an opal glass shade which need the heavier type shade holder. ::Neil::
Jeff, A far cry from what you started with. You took it to the best possible with what you have to work with and it looks good. Your option would be to have it replated and I think that would take away from the overall character of the lamp. I'd leave as is, equip it with a #329 and hang it. That is one we all desire in our collection
Hello Neil, I don't have a proper spare shade holder, which is why I fitted that one, Jeff. Hello Glen, yes, it looks better now and I agree that and old lamp is entitled to reflect it's history, Jeff.
Hi Jeff, They can be obtained new from the Leacock Coleman Center for $16.25+shipping. Model Q-63 shade holder Bob
Hi Jeff-- I'm currently working on an article for the Coleman Light Newsletter about the HQ Pendant lamp. As far as I can determine, fewer than a half-dozen model HQ pendant lamps are accounted for in the US. One was demonstrated at the Coleman convention in Tulsa, OK this past June. With your permission, I'd like to use one of your photos in the article. Bud Michael
