Some more of my haul. I’ve pictured the large knob beside a normal one on a pre-heater, the wee thing has the number 3586 written on the brown packet and the guards seem to have steel mesh. Definitely not made by a man in a shed.
Tilley valve for the Tilley pre heater version BR49 Smaller one is of a Tilley iron I guess, the well made cages are for a Tilley I guess as a heater or glass protection.
Hello Jean, the large knob is for a Tilley iron and the link below shows one on an iron. The unit on the packet is new to me. Does a Tilley 171 lantern glass fit inside those metal mesh guards? If so, then they may be to protect the glass. Tilley DN250 Iron
Yes, that’s the knob Jeff. The 171 globe doesn’t in fact fit inside that guard so it was obviously meant to be used instead of a glass. Don’t know how that would work on a day like today with a howling gale blowing.
Hello Jean, those metal globes are interesting, but I'm not sure what situation they would have been used in.
No Idea. Be a bit stronger than glass I guess and they will stand some draught but I have never seen the like before. ::Neil::
There is a BR49 lamp cock, a knob for the generator on a Tilley DN250 iron, a fuel feed from the Tilley DN250 iron’s fuel tank to the iron’s generator. The perforated screen, things ........ can’t identify those two. However sometime ago, I do seem to remember people were talking about and using mesh screens as replacement for glass globes, I’m not sure if was on Tilley lamps though. These do look similar to the dimensions of a Tilley 171 globe, so maybe ...... Cheers Pete
Just s thought, could the mesh sreens be an attempt at making an X246 heater, I know Petromax have something similar to convert their lamp into a heater. Would the wire gauze from an R1 fit instead of a normal mantle?
Those mesh things certainly look like a Tilley “globe” to me: unbreakable. One would have to modify an X246 burner to run a heater mantle. Later I’ll go to the shed and see if that is at all possible. Cheers Tony @KAB
In order to fit a Tilley radiator mantle, all you need is a longer spigot and mantle support nut as shown here. No need for the burner grid. Been there, done that. TILLEY LAMP RADIATOR PARTS TILLEY HEATER PARTS TILLEY LAMP HEATER SERVICE KIT Somewhere in the shed, I have a BiAladdin of some persuasion which came with a perforated stainless steel cylinder instead of a glass. It came in a job lot and as I already had a good example of whatever model it is, I've never done anything with it. Perhaps tomorrow, I'll dig it out and have a play. Henry.
It will be interesting to see Henry’s steel globe. Meantime I’ve addd some close ups, these are very well made so I’ve tried to show the join and the turnover at the top of the cylinder. The steel one is almost exactly the same size as the later Tilley globe. None of the lamps have been converted to take a radiator mantle. The ‘globe’ on the brass X246 which has been converted to electricity is steel with what looks like brass plating. It has a different design and a different way of strengthening the top rim, it’s slightly shorter than the steel one.
Well I haven't managed to find the steel "globe" yet. I very much doubt that I've thrown it out and suspect it will be in the very deepest recesses of the shed. The main problem is that the shed is so full, there's barely enough room for me and a thorough search will involve moving much stuff outside, which I'm afraid will have to wait until the days are longer and drier. Suffice to say - to the best of my memory - it is more like the perforated stainless steel version than the expanded brass example. Henry.
Yep, that fits my memory of an article that was around using a steel mesh as a replacement for a glass globe. The holes would allow light to radiate out and the mesh would dampen the ingress of wind and drafts.
The perforated metal pieces appear like some replacement globes for a Tilley lantern. Some unbreakable versions apparently. And they look like stainless steel to me. If so, they should be of a more recent make. One could make those in a fabrication workshop. The perforated holes would offer some protection from wind gusts to some extents by interrupting/altering the wind from the outside, creating numerous 'eddy-currents' on the air flow as it enters the globe. That's usually sufficient to reduce the velocity of the wind inside the globe. The mantle would survive. Try them out on your Tilleys.
@WimVe Ah, but this is the old shed and is used mainly for storing parts lanterns and other stuff. There is also a compressor and sand-blasting cabinet which is not too difficult to get to and a chest freezer just inside the door. I have more than 100 lamps and lanterns in the house and many more in the new shed which are easy to get at. Don't worry, I have plenty of lamps to enjoy. Henry.
Looks like the base plates were made by spinning- the tool marks are very obvious on the brass coloured globe, and also visible on the stainless one. Perhaps more evidence for small scale industrial manufacture- I don't know that much about spinning, but I'd imagine spinning stainless would take a fairly serious rig; it's much tougher and more resistant to forming than mild steel of the same gauge, let alone most non-ferrous alloys. It also looks like the plates for both types were made on the same former- so likely both come from the same workshop?
