Kayen CL12

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  1. Anthony

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    This is probably a Kayen CL12 being a copy of the Tilley AL21.

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    As similar as it is to the Tilley AL21, as usual there are differences between the Kayen and the Tilley.

    Where the are 2 items in the one picture, the Kayen is on the left.

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    The diameter of the Kayen is smaller than the Tilley.
    The Kayen parts can fit inside the Tilleys.
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    Kayen vent is narrower.
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    Kayen air tube hole is larger.
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    Kayen glass holding ring is steel.
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    And the burner is just weird.
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    As Neil pointed out to me, the burner is larger than a normal AL21 burner, therefor 300cp rather than 200cp.
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    Air tubes with a fine mesh.
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    These came from a 1946 and a 1951 catalogue.
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    Is AL11 a typo done twice or is this one we knew nothing about ???


    And it has a pressure pip.
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  2. Tony Press

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    Excellent, Anthony!

    Another piece of the Kayen puzzle, and one of a kind. It has found a good home.

    Cheers

    Tony

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  3. Anthony

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    I have just found that the 190 mantle is an AL21 mantle and would not fit on this burner.
     
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    A fine example, less rounded corners but looking good
     
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    Excellent post Anthony . Nice looking lamp :thumbup:
     
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    An interesting post indeed!:thumbup:
     
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    Interesting that they match parts to AL11 and not AL21. That implies differences presumably in sizes. I have the Kayen listed as a copy of AL11 but it clearly is a copy of AL21 but with some parts AL11 sized. Very interesting and very good to finally see an example of what has to be a pretty rare beast. I shall have to revise my description of this model. Cool stuff and many thanks. ::Neil::
     
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    Hello Anthony,
    I just scored one of these in a very poor state as someone long ago converted it to gas, Bummer.
    The one good thing about it, It still had it's marked Armour glass in it.
    Cheers Marko

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    @Marko57 , thanks for the info.
    Does it have the same burner and air buttons ??
    (I'm assuming it doesn't being converted to gas)
     
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  10. Marko57

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    @Anthony
    I should of said it was butchered to convert it too a Carbine lamp.
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    Interesting carbide lamp!


    Cheers

    Tony
     
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    Now that's a project.
     
  13. Marko57

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    Hello Tony,
    My son found it for me and for $25 with burner missing and the glass being good, please get it for me.
    Thinking it was a Tilley and i do need two glass panels.
    He delivered it the next day and what a surprise to find out it was a Kayen which i have been after for to many years.
    The dude who converted even removed the fuel tank so she will never go again on kero, Sad.
     
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    Howdy Brian
    I quick clean up and thats it with this one.
    Cheers Mark.
     

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