Lux JL partial lamp, wish to know more about it.

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  1. Marko Vahtokari Finland

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    Hello everyone and Merry Christmas.
    I just got this partial LUX lamp and I would like to know more about it.
    In the pictures it is like when I had it, havent done anything to it yet.
    I know that there is a lot of parts missing and living in Finland I´m pretty sure it´s hard to find all the missing parts.
    How ever, it would be nice to know how it is supposed to look like.

    LUX-1.jpg LUX-2.jpg
     
  2. george

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    This is a mystery to me... it doesn't even look like a lamp...WOW!
     
  3. Conny C

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    Hi Marko,

    I think you have got the lower container part of Lux JL lamp. The top part in your first picture is the hanger for that Lux lamp!
    You can find a Lux JL lamp in this thread …… 1904 ~ 1908 Lux Litt. JL

    /Conny
     
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    Hi @Marko Vahtokari and welcome to the forum. That’s an interesting lamp. The link from Conny shows what you have when complete.
     
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    Welcome aboard!:thumbup:
     
  6. Lighthouse

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    Very interesting lamp.
    In my opinion, parts from several Lux lamps were used. The upper part (with the tag) may have come from a Lux Victoria, while the lower parts as well as the knobs and control handles look like they could have come off the aforementioned JL lamp.
     
  7. MYN

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    And that is supposed to be a portable lamp. You need to have the strength of the Norse legends or Vikings to be able to use it comfortably.
     
  8. Marko Vahtokari Finland

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    Thanks for all the info.
    I thought it might be a mismatch because it looks somewhat illogical.
    So maybe somebody was feeling a bit artistic putting this together.
    The hanger is on the wrong end, right?
    Also, I was wondering why the tag has no number, even if there is a place for it.

    It´s too much of a job for me to restore it so maybe I´ll use my own artistic skills to make it useable as an electric lamp.
     
  9. WimVe

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    @Marko Vahtokari , welcome.
    Are you a lamp/lantern collector?

    Electrocution of (part of) a rare lamp is a lttle harsh for those who seek parts to restore their lamps.
    So it maybe better to offer it up for sale here, as is.
     
  10. Marko Vahtokari Finland

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    Hi and no, I´m not a collector.
    I may try to put it for sale but I have no idea how to put a price on it (or the parts).
     
  11. MYN

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    Hmmm, could this be a different variant of the Lux lamp? The lower part doesn't look exactly the same as the one in the link posted earlier by @Conny C
     
  12. WimVe

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    @MYN, the "crown" part which was on top is now at the bottom.
    For the rest does it looks correct but incomplete.
     
  13. Nils Stephenson

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    Compared to a catalogue picture, I think it must be the bottom of a JL. Some more detail photos could help.

    LUX-1_invert_crop.jpg Catalogue.jpg
     
  14. MYN

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    The one has been modified? I mean the area at bottomest of the lower part.
    I mean they're totally different. It doesn't look like someone had simply attach the top eyebolt on it by sawing-off, drilling and threading the original bottom end.
     
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    Yes the hanger has been taken from the top of the lamp and somehow attached to the bottom. The fancy shaped bottom fitting has been removed and something else used. Maybe the part from the top of the lamp again, but it looks smaller than what is in the catalogue pictures. Of course this lamp model could have had some changes during it's production lifetime and doesn't have to match the catalogue pictures exactly. The position of the filler cap and the shape and style of the collar look the same.
     
  16. Lighthouse

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    It would seem like it, yes. As Nils denotes, what was originally the bottom part has been removed and in its place the hanger was put. Are you able to remove the bottom section (in your original picture)? That may resolve/answer some questions we currently have.

    If you were going to do that - don't drill any holes or significantly alter the shape of the parts currently attached to your lamp. If you'd put this up for sale - I'm sure some members would like to buy it (including me).
     
  17. MYN

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    That's it. This is the variant with the eyebolt bottom.
     
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  18. Marko Vahtokari Finland

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    I´m open to any suggestions on this one. If you want to make an offer on it, please do.
     
  19. Lighthouse

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    Either sell it as it is, or rewire it in such a way that you don't destroy any current parts. Don't drill holes in it or bent parts. It'd certainly look great in any home.
     
  20. Nils Stephenson

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    Well spotted. I saw the post but didn't take notice of the extra ring at the bottom. Reading the text from the Lux advertising (in Swedish) it says that they are built for boats etc. Having an extra tie point at the bottom would be handy to stop it swinging around. This was possibly an option.
     
  21. Marko Vahtokari Finland

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    Is that particular ad somewhere to be seen?
     
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    What I was thinking of is here. You have to be a subscriber to see it though. Subscription is cheap (in my opinion) and well worth it.
     
  23. MYN

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    I was a little doubtful that the bottom part shown in the illustration below is removable. So I was thinking it would be quite unlikely for anyone to mistakenly replace it with the top 'eyebolt':
    20201226_202430.jpg
     
  24. Marko Vahtokari Finland

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    Yes, that´s probably right, atleast sounds logical. So, do I have rarity?
     
  25. WimVe

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    I think you are to focussed on value.
    A complete lamp is rare, you do not have a complete lamp and what you have is broken.
    The fact that someone put the top fixing at the bottom doesn't make the remains more "rare".

    You are not a lamp/lantern collector so you will not save these parts in the hope to make it complete at a point in time.
     
  26. Marko Vahtokari Finland

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    So you obviously did not read all the comments. Pleased do so and then you know what we are talking about.
     
  27. Lighthouse

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    I'd argue that you have some parts that belong to a pretty rare lamp, and they might benefit a collector who's in need of parts. The alterations in my opinion make it less desirable, but it's still well worth keeping.
     
  28. Marko Vahtokari Finland

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    Ok, thanks.
    I will consider selling it, I just need to find out some info about how to price it.
    At this time I have no idea...
     
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    Or you might want to start collecting them yourself :D.
     
  30. Marko Vahtokari Finland

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    Too may things going on already...
     
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