Sealing a stress cracked petrol lilor.

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  1. willethesteam

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    I have a lilor model 4500, the tank is quite badly stress cracked although it still holds pressure. I’m of course reluctant to light it like this or ever, I’m interested in using a tank sealer called por 15 it is meant to be a very good tank sealer. Is there any knowledge on it from people using it before also your thoughts and advice would be appreciated. Also when using a sealer of any description I take it you you to remove all pumps and feed pipes? Cheers willie
     
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    @willethesteam I’ve used the stuff and it’s been effective. Others chipped in with their thoughts HERE.

    The two pressure lamps and one pressure stove I used it on were paraffin-fuelled however and I’d be reluctant to rely on its sealing capabilities in a petrol-fuelled device. Yes, it was designed to seal leaking steel petrol tanks on motorbikes, but those tanks aren’t pressurised. I may be being over-cautious …

    Prepping the tank with the two POR chemicals the manufacturer advocates is important. One’s a highly caustic cleaning liquid and after water rinses a second fluid coats the surfaces with a layer assisting the bond of the POR resin.

    John
     
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    Paint Over Rust, POR 15 was designed as a rust preventative not a tank sealer.
    It's intended use was for rusted auto parts.
     
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    Caswell's fount sealer does a good job but I would only use it with kerosene/paraffin. Is it possible to fit that with a preheat cup or use a Tilley torch?
     
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    Thanks for your comments everyone. Is there a better recommendation to use on the tank other than por. I just Googled what would be best and that was what it came up with. Any help is appreciated. Cheers willie
     
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    Normally, people would avoid repairing a pressure tank for petrol or other highly volatile, flammable liquids. Many would advise against it due to the high risks involved.
    If I were to ignore those and go ahead, I'd use soft solder for the primary repairs. Metal-to-metal type repairs(soldering, brazing, welding) are in most cases, the strongest for such a task.
    As a secondary backup, I might use the Caswell's type of sealer. I mean a sealer that's made of solvent-free Novolac Epoxy resins. These are some of the most fuel, solvent and chemical-resistant sealers/coatings on the market. The sealer would do the job from the inside.
    I won't trust pressure-tank repairs that are solely dependant on sealers.
     
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    Resign yourself to the fact that the fount is a lost cause. As stated above, sealers are meant for non-pressurized tanks. A stress cracked fount is structurally compromised. More stress cracks will appear in the future. Trying to seal them or even solder them is a game of whack-a-mole. The risk involved in a pressurized tank of petrol based fuel leaking while the lamp/lantern is burning just isn't worth the risk.
     
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    If it holds pressure is it really stress cracked
    Vertical scratches from dirty dies can appear to be stress cracks. Just my observation.
     
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    I've attempted to seal a stress cracked fount and after chasing one new leak after another I gave up at 6. It's a fools errand in the end. I've sealed a brass paraffin/kerosene tank using thinned epoxy on the inside and that worked but having said that, I don't use that lantern on a regular basis...AND there's no way I'd trust any such technique on a naptha/Coleman fuel pressure lantern.

    A guy died a couple of years ago from a faulty naptha pressure device that failed. I'd try to find a donor tank from eBay or one of the other auction websites.
     

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