Ok what is the trick

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  1. Seansmithwfd United States

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    I have several tilley lamps. What is the trick to get the mantles in place. My problem is the larger opening. Seems like every one I get on I either rip the mantle or the string breaks and I have to use a wire to secure it. Just curious if there are any tricks to it.
     
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    There are different sizes of Tilley mantles, so which ones are you using and which lamp or lantern are you fitting them to?
     
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    Have a couple of 246’s a storm and a bracket lamp and a pl153. The mantles I have say 191 on them. I know very little about them. Didn’t realize there were multiple size mantles.
     
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    The Tilley 191 mantles are for floodlights etc., the burner on the floodlights are smaller in diameter.
    The mantles which you need are number 164.
     
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    … and good 191 mantles are not that easy to come by, so save the ones you have.


    Cheers

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    Thank you for the info. I will save the 191’s. Have half a dozen or so of them.
     
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    I find mantles with weak ties a pain in the @&$€, and I use them only for testing.

    I’ve got a large batch of double tie Tilley 164 mantles that I use for finished/tested lamps and lanterns.

    Cheers

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    The tricks come in various means.
    The most sensible, of course, would be using correctly sized ones for the burner.
    Assuming there's a shortage or absence of top quality mantles, then the tricks would be:
    1. Get lots of practice with the cheapest, most crappy and those with the weakest, ultra-thin tie-strings :lol:.
    2. Get someone with delicate fingers or someone who's adept in knitting, sewing work and such to do it for you.:p
    3. Don't stretch out the mantles so much. Some older, thoriated mantles that had been made with the use of thorium nitrate solutions can turn out to be a little 'acidic'. An aqueous solution of Thorium nitrate can have a pH as low as 2.46. Sometimes, there might not be adequate neutralizing measures taken during manufacture. Over a long period of time, the acidic residues would eventually weaken the fabric of the mantles. Even the slightest stretch during assembly could tear them apart.
     
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    I much prefer the tie-on mantles although I've very few left now.

    I find the trick is not to tie them on to withstand the force of a hurricane. Just be gentle with the string ties - sufficient to keep the top of the mantle in the groove on the burner is easily enough...
     
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  11. Seansmithwfd United States

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    That is great info. Thanks
     
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    My pleasure. I created the diagram because I was having trouble fitting them myself, then I saw the Peerless drawing which is OK but I figured I could tidy it up a bit. Cheap Chinese mantles get a bad press but I have had pretty good success adapting them and let's face it, they are so cheap, you can easily afford to waste a few without worrying about it. AliExpress is the place to look.
     

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