First Hasag 351L

@LanternTom

I found all parts.
I hope the thread from your mixing tube is still good.
You need a 300/350cp mantle.
Please give me your address in my Inbox,then I will send the parts tomorrow across the Atlantic.



Regards,Reinhard

 

@Reinhard
Here is my address:

Tom Reis
100 Poplar Court
Hebron, Indiana 46341
USA

What do I owe you?

 

@LanternTom

I have enclosed the shipment with two original stuffing for the handwheel shaft.
The package will out tomorrow or the day after tomorrow.
I do not ask for anything.
I want the lamp to light up again and you enjoy it.
Please take off the hood and take a few photos.
Maybe we succeed infurther identifying the lamp.

Regards Reinhard

 

So all you want are naked photos ??

 

@Reinhard

I will get some pics for you. Thank you very much for your help. The lamp will fire again, i promise..

Tom

 

@Reinhard
Here are some pics

 

Well take good care of the tank. It looks in need of some rust removal and preservation.

 

@LanternTom

Please take a picture of the tank top and a picture of the complete pump. Pump cover,Pump button.
Regards Reinhard

 

@Reinhard

Here are pictures of pump and tank

 

Well, overall this lantern looks a bit odd to me. Surely it could be regarded as a Hasag 351L, but there are some details I've not yet seen on Hasag or Mewa (VEB Leipziger Werke) Lanterns:

• the small preheater funnel outside the globe cage is only known at Ditmar and Swiss Hasag (Eugen Schatz/Meinrad Aschwanden)
• the hood nut looks different to any Hasag/Mewa I've ever seen
• the shape of the top of the Vaporizer is even/straight (not a "mushroom" shape)
• the filler cap looks totally different
• the pump handle and the tube cap look also differently
• the cover of the chimney is punched not very accurately
• The handwheels seen on these lanterns are often made from reddish fainted plastic, not from fibre, Bakelite, or cardboard.

To my guess it is some rare lantern that seems to show up from time to time in the Baltic states. From that point I believe that it was made somwhere else, but not in Leipzig/Germany.

 

@Martin K.

Look at this one that Henry Plews just fettled. It has some of the same thinks mine has...

Hasag 351L in steel re-visited.

 

A help in identifying the tanks are the pumps.
The pump caps always fit only on the associated pump cylinders.
They all have different diameters.
They are not compatible with each other.

Left to right:
1.)HASAG 351 L
2.)MEWA
3.)BAT and BAT 270

4.)PETROMAX (just for comparison)

Regards Reinhard

 

I think the best start is to remove MEWA from our memory. This brand never existed.
What we use to call MEWA is VEB Leipziger Werke.

MEWA was a typical name to indicate a metall using factory.

 

Look here.
I have dismanteled one of my Hasag 351L to show you the tank.
If the top of the tank does not look it's not a Hasag 351 L.This includes thus pump.
See the photo above (Hasag351 L)
The pump cover had a lock.
@LanternTom
I forgot to pack the package with a small aluminium disc.
Ist belongs between vapurizer top and vapurizer base.
She is very important.At the point it has to be absolutely tight.

 

@LanternTom
that's exactly what I mean. I was at a small lantern meeting this weekend and we also spoke about that topic. The common sense was that it might be a kind of a license production, maybe from Finland, since they all occur in that area. Some of those lanterns are even marked "Hasag" with a paper sticker and they all look very much the same.
/Martin

 

@Reinhard

That is exactly how my valve looks with the notch in it for a wrench. Sounds like i have a mixture of stuff...

 

All successor models of the Hasag 351L also had this notch for the fork wrench.

Please show some pictures of your complete valve.
And also of the handwheel shaft with all small parts.

Regards Reinhard

 

@Reinhard

Here you go.....

 

...now that's another interesting detail which is odd: At a first glance, your part looks nearly like the Ditmar style, where the gland packing is located inbetween the small disk and the sleeve on the shaft, and then commonly inserted into the lower part of the vaporizer:

A difference is the gland nut at the Ditmars, and the screw at yours.

In comparison to that, at the Hasag parts use a separate piece with the gland packing to be screwed into the lower part of the vaporizer:


Moreover, the Ditmars use a screw to fix the base plate of the globe cage, whereas Hasags use a nut, like you can also see on my photos. The diameter of the shaft is (nearly) equal at the two makes. So your part is some kind of a hybrid, which I've never seen on any Ditmars, Hasags and lanterns of VEB Leipziger Werke.

Regards, Martin

 

That's really interesting.
The eccentric nipple has thread only on one side.
The eccentric nipple of the Hasag 351L had a thread on both sides and a union nut. (K 249 and 251)

Regards Reinhard

 

Dear Reinhard I see in this post you are a real expert about Hasag lamps.
Could you help me? I have a very old Hasag lamp and I want to make it function again but I have some problem :
-i need another needle for the carburettor nozzle , is it a 0,11 mm isn't it?
-i would like to understand the model of the lamp
Thank you very much

 

@Francesco94
The real expert is my friend Martin K. I only have a few 351L and one 51A,but that's 300HK lamps. Your Hasag is a 100 HK lamp. The threads of the Jets and needles from Hasag and Petromax are not compatible.
Regards Reinhard

 

Thank you very much Reinhard , then I will wait for @Martin K. 's reply

On the second picture i have posted on th needle it's printed the number "11": what does it mean? Is it the size of the needle(=0,11mm)?
Is there a way to make or replace that needle?

Thank you very much , it's my first experience on the pressure lamp world

 

@Francesco94
this is certainly a cute little lantern from the pre-war Hasag manufacture in exceptionally good condition. It is a Hasag No. 34 rated at 100HK, and technically almost identical to the Petromax No. 900 "Little Baby". You can find both of them here in the reference gallery. The brand "Kerolux" (registered by Hasag in 1935) marked on it was intended for export abroad.

Nowadays it is almost impossible to get suitable spare parts for those (except the glass cylinder, so be extra careful with the original one), and the jet has a different thread than the 150HK types still available from China. The needle/wire diameter could well be 0.11mm, as the orifice diameter in the jet should be 0.12mm @100HK (0.14mm @150HK) for kerosene/paraffin. The only thing you can try is to get the original jet free (e.g. by ultrasonic bath) and maybe obtain spare parts from the Korean seller "Lovelantern2014" on Ebay, who offers small needles. So you could try to adapt those intended for "Ditmar 100" or "Phoebus 615" as possibly the closest match. However, these are not exactly a bargain.

Please make sure to service it thoroughly, replace the gaskets/seals which may have hardened over time, and clean the vaporizer and tank in order to get it running properly. These small lanterns are somewhat sensitive to improper settings or other shortcomings.
Regards, Martin

 

Welcome to CPL @Francesco94

This post may be of help

Making a pricker for a Petromax 900 “Little Baby”

 

Thank you very much for your availability