Makeshift Wire Mantle For Tilley Radiators

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  1. iwoo

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    Thanks Ozzy
     
  2. Derek

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    Think I'll go this way for my next one.

    This is a nimonic copper original. I don't know how long the mantle had been used (if at all) when I got it, but there's less than thirty hours use in my R1:

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    It's 45mm across the bulb, and 38mm top to bottom.

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    There may be an issue with the generator in that it might be overburning. Also, in place of a ceramic tube to insulate the burner tube, I have used a piece of steel with some brass wire wound around the burner tube, mainly to centralise the steel tube - the top of which shows clear signs of melting where the flames exit the jets.

    Derek

    PS £5 a gallon in Davis of Broseley, Salop.
     

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    Addendum:

    When burning. You can see the hot spots. Plenty of heat, but suspect the generator is shot.

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    Hello Derek, the ceramic tube is required or you will ruin burner spigots and vapourisers and mantles.

    That mantle could be repaired, Jeff.
     
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    I note Base Camp now do 'insulation' tubes tubes, but short of beginning sewing lessons with copper wire how would you propose a repair, just handling the wire globe cause more to crumble away? I'm genuinely curious.
     
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    PS: There's a link to my present arrangement [url=http://0flo.com/index.php?threads/2196
     
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    Hello Derek, if the mantle is that bad then it's scrap, Jeff.
     
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    These photos show another style of wire mesh heater mantle and it works well.

    I bought this one about 17 years ago and I do not know it's construction method, Jeff.

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    Even simpler , like it :thumbup: :thumbup:
     
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    You can't use copper wire to repair one of these. They run too hot and the copper will rapidly oxidise or burn away. The originals were nemonic metal which I think is a sort of Nickel-Copper alloy which in effect is stainless and survives long periods of red heat. ::Neil::
     
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    I think in military terms it`s BER (beyond economic repair) but i am also loathe to chuck something that might be of some use you could try nichrome element wire from an electric heater or old type jug element.
     
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    I was given a 1950 military Bia/Vap lantern with a sticky label bearing the letters B.E.R. which I assumed was 'beyond economic repair' What was actually wrong with it? - the pump-rod had been left sticking out at some point and was slightly bent. It took about a minute to straighten in a vice.

    So in this case, BER = 'more than I can be bothered to put right.'

    The taxpayer foots the bill...
     
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    Many moons ago as a young Lance Corporal I was told to drive a Land Rover and trailer from Rheindahlen in Germany to a vehicle depot near Antwerp in Belgium. I was to hand it in and drive a new one back. Bloody awful drive, impossible to drive in a straight line, suspension like concrete plus 'press & hope' brakes. Perhaps before I set off I should have asked what BER meant that was chalked on the drivers door. They told me when I got to Antwerp!

    Just to add insult to injury, the new Land Rover started overheating after about 5 miles. Found there was no coolant in the radiator!! Had to walk to a farm and beg two buckets of water.

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