Two of my Super Aladdins... The chrome on both was in an awful state, one worse than the other. I did toy with the idea of having them re chromed but considering how cheaply you can pick these fonts up for it really wasn't worth it. So I decided to spray paint them; one silver and the better of the two gold. This gold one one will be our garden table lamp... The silver one is going to live in our lockup as a "quick light"... I'm really looking for a hanging lamp too. I did buy my Bialladin for that purpose but decided it's too good to leave down there, so I'll probably pick up a Tilley in the end.
I'd be very cautious about taking that 1927 advertising as literal when reading 'Petroleum'. It does not specify petrol as being used in those lamps as shown, more like an implication that they make such lamps. However, there are wick lamps that do run on petrol such as the Pigeon with cotton wadding stuffed in the tank, and usually a thin wick.
Petroleum is not the same as petrol! It is confusing, I know but in many countries petroleum = paraffin = kerosene (or, what the French call 'petrole', when looking for petrol you must ask for essence over there). Best regards, Wim
Agreed Wim, and doubly confusing when in the UK petrol was often labelled 'petroleum spirit'! I can imagine first time Brits abroad in France asking to fill their cars up with 'petrol', and having the question asked 'Essence?' and the puzzled Brit pointing to the fuel tank and the pump: ' that stuff!'. The French attendant rolling his eyes and filling up with essence!
Up until the 1930's, 'Petrol' in the UK was a trade name registered by Eugene Carless for petroleum spirit (gasoline). His competitors were forced to use the term 'motor spirit', which became abbreviated to 'spirit'. Thus, if you have a pre-1930's British lamp or instructions, it may state 'for spirit' meaning petrol (gasoline) or, it could say 'for spirit' meaning methylated spirit (alcohol). But, it could also be 'for petrol ' meaning petrol (gasoline). Plus of course, as Wim says, petroleum can also mean paraffin or kerosene . Terry
In many old British adverts paraffin is called Petroleum. However, Derek is correct about the Young's advert as it states lamps (plural) not lamp (singular). Jeff.
Here are 4 more adverts, the Famos advert is undated and the Milbro advert is from 1931 and the Sunlight advert is from 1928, Jeff.
Wicky lamps ? Why is some one from the Shetlands piling on all these adverts for wick lamps ? It was agreed at the start of this Classic pressure lamp site this was a pressure lamp site. We had enough arguments on do we allow heaters in the early days and it was mentioned definately no blow lamps or wick lamps. So wheres all the moderators gone ? mick
We've only ever had one moderator, Mick, and it's Christer. He's probably down with his hens collecting eggs. But as Jeff has already said, this is the Open Forum where people can post just about anything. Believe me though, this thread pains me just as much as it does you...
No need for moderation! As Jeff says this is the Open Forum so anything goes. As much as wick stuff leaves me cold it shouldn't be quite as contentious as religion or politics!
I remember posting a tilley heater on here way back now and the speed a moderator moved it so I can vouch for the way he does his job on here keep up the good work we are all grateful for his work. I quite like the non pressure wick lamps nice to see members lamps lit up on here but I don't have any as yet but I have never ruled one out. Thing here is I did not ever expect to see screen after screen of adverts for them on here anywhere as last night maybe it will send the wrong message out to people who drop in on the site or should we have a separate section so they can post lamps and a reference gallery on the too? pete
Thanks for your kind Words Pete! CPL is quite easy to moderate since people here are pretty focused on the subject rather than ranting about religion, politics, how big, and many, guns you got or what not. The odd misplaced posts are easy to move, and in this case we have no problems as everyone already pointed out. It's the Open forum. If we for some reason should run out of space, I'm sure the files posted here will go to give room for the "real deal", but it's hardly a problem now. I Think Ross can tell us better if we are short of server space. Hardly at that hour! I´d rather be "swilling" a beer at the time of the day (night) this topic came up.
Heresy Peter! Always scope for someone to create classicwicklamps.com! If it appears that lots of wick stuff is being posted here to excess the founder members will have to make a decision - create a dedicated section (unlikely) or ban them (more likely)
Whilst recognising the site in general is for 'pressure' lamps, there has been an absence of somewhere for alternative postings since 'Be Back Later' has gone on a 'back burner'. As has been stated, it is an open forum, rather like a 'lounge' area for discussion on most anything. If you do not wish to read about Non-pressure lamps - by-pass the thread. It's as simple as that. But I find some dismay in the antipathy that comes from folk who dislike them to the point of wanting them banished. I don't like golf, so 'I don't go there', I don't seek it to be banned. The simple fact that there are now seven pages on non-pressure lamps shows that many are interested enough to not only read, but contribute - and with enthusiasm. There are eight pages on Shetland photos, which also include locations other than Shetland, but few have announced their displeasure at such being displayed - why such antipathy against one kind of lamp? Why 'wicky crap'?
As you said Derek, this is the Open Forum so we also accept the wicky antipathy as long as it doesn't escalate to personal abuse. So far so good. CPL was never meant to replace BBL, but just to provide an alternative reference-based resource for pressure lamp collectors. If more collectors and in particular wick lamp collectors had contributed to BBL it may still be with us. I'm quite happy for wick stuff to appear in this section even though it's of no interest to me. However if it's felt there is a concerted effort to take advantage of the freedom of the open forum to manipulate the forums aims the founders may need to make some decisions. I don't think we are there yet.
Hi ! Everything on this site comes in through the front door so we have to look at , I personelly hardly ever look at the open Forum site deliberately I just read the recent posts and look at the pics.I don't want to wade through alot of other lamps to reach an interesting sighting of a pressure lamp. I do have oil lamps at home myself and never said " I don't like wick lamps " we have loads down at the Bolton abbey railway station . As Derek states if you don't like a thread by pass it ! Yes but I can't bypass 8 very abusive phone calls to my answer phone last night from a Shetland telephone number between 11.30 pm and midnight .You F*****g Enlish twit then the phone went dead ! and 7 more simular phone calls with threts added ! That is very unacceptable ! Mick ???
I'll answer the one about "wicky crap". It arose from friendly banter (note those two words) between Neil McRae and Fil Graff during their activities over at the Guild. Neil, as we're all aware, is 'pressure' through and through whereas Fil is more concerned with wick lamps. As part of the gay wit and repartee that passed between them, Neil would refer to Fil's lamps as 'wickie-crap' and Fil would refer to Neil's lamps as 'gas-bombs'. So that's how it started - Neil may wish to add something but I think that's substantially correct. Simply two friends 'joshing' each other - no more than that - and that's the sense in which it's used here. There's no need for anybody to be offended. I've no problem whatsoever with anyone referring the interesting, significant and valuable objects of desire I've gathered lovingly over the past eleven years as 'gas-bombs'. Naturally, in return, I reserve the right to refer to any of those smelly, ornate and/or ugly contrivances with a wick as 'wickie-crap'...
I have always understood the wickie-crap remark as being said tongue-in-cheek since it has been used between collectors who know eachother, or said in a manor that it's no doubt that it's made as a little friendly banter. I find it hard to Think anyone has taken it seriously as an actual "wick lamp hate". But it's nice to see the origin of it! Thanks David.
@Mick - aye, the Open Forum feeds into Recent Post so when there's a spate of activity it gives you more to wade through if it's not a forum you visit. As for the abuse but more significantly, threats via the answering machine, I'm pretty sure I couldn't ignore it either. Very sad to hear.
Well, I dunno, Christer. I remember the time I was accosted by two members here/CCS and frog-marched across the field at Newark. They forced me to sit in a chair they'd set up in front of a display of lit wickie lamps and wouldn't let me go until I'd acknowledged to all and sundry gathered around that wickie lamps were interesting and worthwhile. Naturally, I lied and thus recovered my freedom. Actually, in case anyone thinks different, it was all just a bit of fun...
The sentence below which I have enclosed in brackets is copied and pasted from Mick's post. (Why is some one from the Shetlands piling on all these adverts for wick lamps ?) It is a totaly racist statement and that makes me angry! If others do not see the racism in that statement, then that is their prerogative. He knows my name and he refers to me as someone and because I live in Shetland, then I'm not allowed to post on the website and he does not even have the sense to see which forum the post is in. If racist posts are now accepted on this website then I no longer want anything to do with it. In my opinion, I have contributed well to this website, but that does not appear to count for anything. This is at least the third time that Mick has offended me on this website and he has also offended me outwith this website, but because he is a friend of the founder then no lasting action is taken and I'm the one who is painted black! To be fair to Ross, he has warned Mick in the past about his offensive posts, but Mick has not learned from those warnings. I reported Mick's post to both Ross (Founder) and Christer (Moderator) and neither of them have bothered to reply yet. I posted those adverts because I thought that they would be useful for reference and this particular post is popular as it has been viewed over 1700 times. I have never expected thanks for my contributions to this website, but I will not accept disrespect, Jeff.
Sorry about not responding to your report yet. I intended to as soon as I got the grips on things, plus that I've been busy working on a car all day, so just been in sporadicly now and then. But I did immediately write a quick note in here about not seing any problems with your posts since they are in the Open forum. Thought it was much better to give you right (so to speak) in the public rather than in private.
Hello Christer, that's fair enough and when I add this post that will bring my number of posts to 3000. However, it is also my last post on this website and I have already cancelled my subscription, Jeff.
I'll try my best to post here (2 failed attempts - doesn't help I'm on netbook/dialup travelling via coach up the A1) I fully intend to reply but pls be patient. I want to check some things out & it doesn't help that my mobile is dead I don't see racism of any degree. I have also taken action in your favour in past spats so please don't post erroneous assumptions about why action hasn't been taken to your liking this time. Support for your postings in the Open Forum has already been given by myself, Christer & others.
I succombed to the delights of the wick lamp by accident & i couldn't resist this No12 Aladdin for a tenner with a new loxxon chimney 8) , but it had no waisted base fitted so i decided a while back to make it into a harp hanging lamp instead I purchased some 6mm brass rod & set about making this...... It's my take on a harp not a direct copy , the support ring was made from some scrap brass strip & i also made the knurled securing nuts & half nuts too The three pieces of brass rod were annealed & bent them to shape before assembling , but before bending i machined the support threads & drilled the ends where it would be joined together so as a 4mm dowel could be inserted to mate the ends exactly square A fluted ashtray found in a junk store for 50p made a nice little heat deflector on a Tilley type hanger 8) I think it has made the Aladdin a much nicer & more useful lamp 8) & in good company with my Coleman CQ I know that this is so called "wicky crap" , but guys this is an open forum section & as much as i love pressure lamps & stoves etc this has been a nice change before i go & make another KL hanger , if you have differences of opinion which we all do keep it to yourselves , if you have nothing good to say don't say it at all Best regards Stu
