Petromax 824 ?

Hello Jürgen,

many, many thanks for this table!
It is very interesting for me to see that the Graetz company was still producing standard pressure lamps in the early 1960s.
So the Graetz company adhered to the 1937 contract even after the war!
Here is an excerpt from the PLC catalog No. 99.

Greetings
Jörg

 

@Jörg Wekenmann

Based on the tank scratches and , from 1961 , the embossed 4-digit numbers , I suspected very early in my collecting career that these Standard brand lanterns must also come from Altena.During our meetings in 2020 and 2021 , the suspicion was confirmed when you showed me many documents.You know that at the time I expressed the wish to invite Jürgen to the meeting as well.
One of the four lamps shown has the scratch 9/60.I also have a Petromax in stock with the scratch 3/60.The last tank scratch I saw was from 2/61 on a Petromax 827.The change from tank scratches to the 4-digit code was mostlikely made around this time.From everything I have seen over the years,it is clear to me that the 4-digit code of the sixties is valid from 1961 to 1972.

 

Memorable meeting.
You have some very nice looking Standard lanterns there.
Seems the they did not adopt the newer frame-collar on the Standard as they did for the Petromax. They still have the oblong-slots coller for the Standard throughout the 50s till 1960 from the pictures.
Odd that they somewhat adopted the newer Petromax collar designs on the Aida from that period but not on the Standard.
All of them would be made under Graetz at that time.

 

I noticed that all the standard lanterns in Jürgen's two sheets have a '1' in the second position. But this was not the case with the standard lanterns before or after the war!
If these lanterns with the numbers 5102, 6102, 5112, 6112, 5122 and 6122 were all manufactured by Graetz, then they should also all have a 4-digit base marking, possibly even a scratch because they were manufactured by Graetz earlier.

The company Standard Licht GmbH, Frankfurt, brought pressure lamps back onto the market after the war in 1948, i.e. before Graetz started manufacturing pressure lamps again. Since the location at Mainzer Landstr. 372 was abandoned after the war and the company moved to Gutleutstr. 40 in Frankfurt, I assume that the post-war lamps were all manufactured in Switzerland by SLM AG (Schweizer Lampen- und Metallwaren AG).
I assume that the company Standard Licht GmbH, Frankfurt was a pure sales company after the war without own production.

Gustav Ulmann, a Swiss citizen, was the managing director of both companies. Due to his Jewish denomination, he was no longer allowed to enter the German Reich from 1937!

A few years ago, I was kindly allowed to scan and catalog the archive of Ruedi Fischer, Switzerland. The following pictures are all from his archive. Ruedi received the estate (lamps) of Eugen Schatz and Meinrad Aschwanden many years ago. Both purchased lanterns from the Standard company.

Unfortunately, the archive of Standard Laternen only goes up to 1954, so there is a historical gap between 1954 and 1962 in Jürgen's document.
Anyone who owns a Standard lantern with 51xx or 61xx could still look for a tank bottom stamping.

Thanks and best regards Jörg

 

@Jörg Wekenmann
Thank you very much for the wealth of Information.
@MYN
Yes you saw everything correctly and your considerations are good.Unlike AIDA,Standard brand lanterns had other components installed at times.

These are the vintages of my Standard brand lanterns :
6112 1/4 1954
6102 11/5 1955
6112 9/60 1960
6102 9/8 1958

6122 12/5 1955
6122 without tank scratches,different tank engraving,without Momento inscription on the tank.
6122 2072 1967 New carrying frame

 

Thank you @Jörg Wekenmann and @Reinhard for the wealth of information on these lanterns.
Another great contribution to the Forum. They would certainly be appreciated by all here.
These would hardly be found anywhere on the internet by random search.
Each of the details on these lanterns that were produced throughout the years bears significant meanings which only detailed discussions by interested people could possibly reveal. The years during and after WWII were particularly turbulent. Archives and documents could have been destroyed partially or completely, either deliberately or non-deliberately for reasons that were hard to avoid at that time. A lot of detailed info might have been lost forever. Fortunately, the patents still survived, thanks to earlier relocation efforts. The German Patent Office was completely bombed to ruins and Reichsdruckerei suffered similar fate during then.