Petromax mantles

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  1. ColinG

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    Well... that didn't take long! Great news and don't forget to send some photos... we love photos!
     
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    @ColinG I started looking last week and spoke to someone on here about it can't remember who now so it's been in the mix a couple of weeks and arrived yesterday quite a bit different from the petromax but solid build by the looks of it and made in England crickey back to the days we actually made stuff in this country.
     
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    I was chatting with my wife about this actually. There was a period where everything started to fall apart. We'd built the Harrier jump jet, successfully developed Concorde with the French and we were researching the APT. We designed and built the TSR2 - possibly the best plane of it's type then available, but the project was abandoned because... reasons... apparently. There were other leading edge projects as well, but very few of them lasted. We ended up giving the Harrier to the US (now renamed the AV8B), Concorde was banned from flying supersonic in the US so it's potential was crippled, the TRS2 was dropped despite insanely excellent reviews by the RAF test pilots and the APT... that had it's budget slashed to £4.52p and a packet of peanuts, so it failed - obviously!

    I think that collectively after all those mis-starts, defeats, and squandered efforts, British industry kind of gave up trying any more, sort of like, 'We made some excellent products and they all got trashed so why keep trying?' And as for our car industry.... if you knowingly sell cars as bad as the Morris Marina and the Austin Allegro and expect people to buy them, what on Earth did the management ting was going to happen? British Leyland was a monumental joke - P1$$ poor design (can you even call it design?), irrelevant and misguided market research, divisive management, internal feuds between different divisions, abysmal and stultifying union practices, all topped off with ridiculous marketing... honestly, it was the laughing stock of the automotive world!
     
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    @ColinG I'm not going to challenge any of that Colin absolutely right and we sell our best company's to foreign investors so I can't see any change coming soon what a shame .
     
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    The perfect night.
     

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    Nice! As the evening grow darker, it's so good to light a fir and get a lantern glowing brightly!
     
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    . . and a wick for the preheater.
     
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    @ColinG and a very large scotch :thumbup:
     
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    They're just short of £3 each from base-camp and like the viton® seals from Fettlebox, the only time you'll need to buy more is if you get another Bialaddin or Vapalux lantern.
     
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    For me, a safe place is actually dangerous. Nodody knows of it. We usually forget where that is(maybe that's why hidden treasures are still being 'found' once in a while, by anyone except the one who hid it).
    Well, 'a safe place' is creepy because we trust it so much that we don't even realize that it won't be found when we need it.
    The worst part is, we can't put the blame on anyone except ourselves for it.:p
     
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    Looks like the petromax is working perfectly lighting up the night, congratulations on a good outcome.
    Colin's post just reminded me that my father bought a new Morris marina back in the 1970s and in the first year it spent more time going back to the garage where it was bought than it did on the road, what a piece of garbage that was.
    Ian.
     
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    Maybe he was just unlucky?
    As a diesel fitter for National Carriers we serviced most of the vehicles for British Rail.. they had a mix of vehicles, Bedford Ha vans, Marina vans, Ford escort vans and estates, transits, Commers, Dodge personnel carriers, Leyland 700 fgs’ and others.. I don’t recall the fords being any different to the others.. they all had foibles.. part of the course back then..my first drive was a ha van.. great little van :thumbup:
     
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    @Mr cod thanks Ian yes it's running really well now and hopefully for many years to come ahhh the old British Leyland with their Austin princess the allegro and many other skips many times I saw frustrated drivers turning their cars over in the slightest hint of a frost to no avail and a flat battery oh memories.
     
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    @podbros I couldn't speak about the vans but he wasn't unlucky it was the general rule I'm afraid I worked on windscreen replacements back in the eightys when the montego, maestro, metro were still available and the triumph acclaim etc they were terrible cars even before they were registered I was changing glass as lots of them leaked like a sieve from the factory thankfully things have moved on a bit .
     
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    Not all Leyland products were jokes. Well, at least here in where I live, some the off-route 4x4 Land Rover Defenders which had been in rough service since the late 40s and 50s are still being used till this day to carry cargo and other supplies.
    Primarily, they are still some of the most rugged vehicles that had been depended upon by the British and local armed forces here during the Malayan Emergency(we were having an armed conflict with Communist guerrilas) over rough tropical terrain and jungles.
    No modern civilian four-wheeled drive vehicles could have taken that beating and still remain operational more than half a century later.
    Well, ok these were pretty spartan by modern standards but they just worked when then going gets real tough.
     
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    For sure not all Leyland vehicles were jokes, no, but some of the models that should have been their bread and butter were truly awful. Land Rover were always good even when they were part of Leyland but I think they were separate and quite independent from the nonsense that happened in the regular car divisions.

    The British Army always relied on Land Rover and they operated in many different parts of the world. Also I have a very soft spot for 'Landys' - they were awesome and hopefully still will be, but I'm not sure the new models will ever have the same rugged utility as previous models. I somehow can't see the new models transporting sheep on remote hills or being used as troop transport vehicles... maybe I'm wrong but they look like posh hairdresser's cars now.
     
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    How did we get here?
     
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    Hey guys I have the opportunity to buy a veritas 350 should I bother with it I've read their a bit of a pig to get going which is part of the interest for me .
    Any comments would be welcome.
    Pete
     
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    If it's in decent condition, go for it. I have 8 now and they're not hard to fettle or to use - at least not in my experience. They behave (to my way of thinking anyway) much more like an American lantern like a Coleman or an AGM and not like a Tilley or Bialaddin at all. I think there was some confusion in the past concerning a weird Dutch Army version, but I've found them reliable, very easy to start and they give out a good light!
     
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    @ColinG hmmmm that's interesting Colin it's because their different to the petromax I have and they have a reputation for not being reliable is what gets my interest I think.
    Thanks
     
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    Well, I'd get it and see how you get on. Parts aren't the easiest to come by but there are ways round that, specifically replacement jets (with some adjustment) and possibly pricker needles if you're prepared to fiddle around a bit. If you like a challenge and want a British lantern unlike most others, a Veritas would be the way to go.
     
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    :lol: while waiting for a Veritas I guess.
    But you might to start off a new thread on that, I presumed?
     
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    I guess that @Peter Perry has been bitten and got infected.
     
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    You're right of course, @MYN we should probably finish up this thread as it's wandered way off course. Fun though!

    If you do get the Veritas, Peter, start a new post so we can see how things go.
     
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    Hi guys didn't bother with the veritas the guy wouldn't budge on price and in my eyes wasn't worth the cash but never mind patience is the key and I've got the 300x to start on so I'll be starting a new thread on that .
    Thanks to all who contributed on the petromax thread I couldn't have done it without you all.
    Until next time .
    Pete
     

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