S.D.R. going cheap !!!! but no takers.

Of course, that's why it's possible to set a reserve price in all auctions. I think that might have been the correct way to go with the SDR rather than set an unrealistic starting price. Just my opinion... Quote.

That was my reserve price,the only difference is that with a normal reserve price every Tom Dick and Harry can bid on it knowing they aren't going to win, and they do just for the fun of it.

 

Interesting. One of the odd things about the other SDRs (well, the one's I've seen) is the drawing of the combustion air from within the glass which is therefore liable to have a lower oxygen content. Seems a basic error to make.

Ian

 

Well, they do it to try to find out what the reserve has been set at. But at the end of the day, would it have made any difference if you'd got a few spurious low bids? - your lantern didn't sell either way, reserve or not. End of story...

 

A link would help.

Claus C

 

I've already given you the link, Claus - see my post 36418 earlier - where it says click "here". If you click it, you'll go to the original thread.

Try to keep up, man...

 

Thanks David - missed it in all the exitement - Im and old man you know.
I immediately fall in love with this lamps looks. I want 2 of them. Its on my wishlist for sure.
D---- a nice lamp

Claus C

 

Mick.I reckon you are right here. Odd and interesting perhaps but still just another SDR. I have suggested to the owner what I consider it might be worth to me and you can be assured it does not even come close to £1.5K. It does have features that make it unusuall though. I assume it is just post WW2 so maybe late 1945 or early 1946 because of the pork pie tank which during the war with restrictions on brass might have existed as a drawing but never made until restrictions were removed. I suspect it is in fact a prototype for both the tank and the SDR burner/reflector idea. Prototypes might be interesting but generally non production stuff is not worth what its uniqueness might suggest. The two known prototype Kamplite do nut lamps for instance only sold for $100 each. Mostly what collectors want is rare production product rather than factory flights of fantasy and that tends to be reflected by end value. You and I both know it ain't worth £1500. A bit more than a standard SDR perhaps? Who knows? ::Neil::

 

It's the classic mistake that old and unusual/rare equates to a high price, sometimes it does sometimes it doesn't...

If I had a collection of hens teeth and no one wanted hens teeth then they would be worthless.

In this case how much is anyone going to want a lamp that is in considerably less than perfect condition no matter how unusual?

 

Well, with rare items, sometimes you just have to take what's available.

To be honest, I'd like that SDR in my collection - but let's just say there's a considerable gulf between what I would be prepared to pay for it and what the seller thinks it's worth. My feeling would be that I wasn't alone in that, either...

 

When it comes to collecting things no matter what it is true value goes out of the window. I have seen some shiny looking SDR lamps that were probably in no better condition than my one before they were tarted up go for quite a bit of money. Some collectors will only buy something if it is mint and boxed. Money is sometimes the key factor to having the best collection of anything or having started collecting something when nobody else was. Neil said I was a tad ambitious with the price which of course I was as it didn't sell. The SDR was probably 2 weeks wages for some when new so should it be valued less now because it's old and used or more? I am not saying it's worth money to anyone and I don't care either way who thinks it's a good lamp or not but it must be a good thing that I have showed it to you. I hope so anyway.

 

Old and battered never puts me off the stuff I collect most of it turns up that way yes I would like a really well kept lamp but with the blanchards\kitson stuff you have to take what turns up or don't have any!!
This thread has had a lot of posts from quite a few members and its made me wonder about this no posts on ebay auctions rule that we agreed to when the site was set up. I was for the rule at that time now I aint that sure
whats others think?

pete

 

Ebay and PayPal certainly would have liked it to sell as they would have made themselves a very easy 2 ton or thereabouts.

 

The rule for mentioning Ebay. Guess it depends if you're buying, selling or just watching. If you're selling then it's good if you're watching then it doesn't matter either way but it could be a bit of a problem if you were intending on buying that rare item that only you and that annoying watcher (that told us) had found.

 

It's a double-edged sword, Pete. There have been times in the past when I've been very annoyed that someone posted about a badly listed item I'd spotted and hoped to get cheaply. On the other hand, there have been times when I didn't spot something and another member's post alerted me to it.

It does seem a bit odd to me that stovies over at CCS openly discuss current ebay auctions whereas lampies here on CPL (often the same people!) do not.

There's another aspect to this also. There have been times when I've wanted to point out a current auction for some reason connected with it, rather than just announcing it to the membership e.g. its crassness, devious description/images, unrealistic starting price, unusual bidding pattern, dubious seller etc., etc. The current policy prevents that, possibly to someone's detriment. One of my recent threads along those lines was put into quarantine until the auction ended. Conversely, the Tilley CS22 auction thread has been allowed to run, albeit with no direct link to the auction itself, although sufficient information was given that we all managed to find it for ourselves...

 

Guess we could just go to ccs and slip it into a conversation then.

 

Oh yes it certainly is. I want to know about these odd beasts perhaps more than wanting to own them. I need detail so they can be recorded. Things like value and ownership are ephemeral and changeable but the record remains and I am grateful for having had the oportunity to examine this one in detail.


I remember the founder members discussing allowing live auction posts when the site was being primed before we went live and whilst there was not total agreement on balance it was decided not to permit it. I think this was right because it is in line with the policy not to give valuations here. Ebay is not always a good indicator of value. We all know of outrageous prices paid for some lamps and have seen similar things sell for half the price in subsequent auctions. There will always be people prepared to pay a premium for bright and shiney and others like me who prefer dirty because it is cheaper and anyway half the fun is in restoration. ::Neil::

 

Nor me, but it does influence what I would pay on the chance I could successfully restore...

I always assumed that didn't include post auction...

Indeed it is, but I think it also highlights the reason valuations are avoided on this site and best not assumed...

 

Thanks Neil, I knew you appreciated seeing the lamp. I suppose in a list of the most important items to collect, pressure lamps wouldn't be near the top of the list so I guess that could have something do with values. Might. Be better to look in the Beckhams bins to find something of real value.

 

Not supposed to do that now mick (*edit: this response is to a moved post about an ongoing auction.)

But I feel the same now time to lift the ban and maybe have it like on ccs this thread kinda won me over to the idea now I was dead against it at first
Its like you said dave dodgy bidding dodgy sellers stupid prices for iffy lamps and parts maybe would stop someone on here making a expensive mistake

cheers pete

 

I've started a poll in the Open Forum, [url=http://0flo.com/index.php?threads/5945

 

be intresting to see a result works ok on ccs

pete

 

On CCS it is for subscribers only & a special section of it's own where the posts auto delete 90 days after last post. So if a interesting discussion starts after a link is posted that will also be lost. Auctionwatch is not universally popular on CCS hence the consideration it was given here pre-launch.
Auction links expire & can render the subsequent discussion meaningless to future readers - not good on a site primarily for reference.

Reference Library is open to all there at present - subscribers only here on CPL. The sites aren't identical in feature.