Separate manufacturer sections under Chinese in the Reference Gallery?

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  1. Mackburner

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    Well I thought about that and I'm not sure. If we go by brand in this case then that will put AshFlash- Roddy, Nomad and maybe one or two more in separate countries. If they all go by manufacturer they would all be in China or how about a gallery for Hong Kong. An HK category would give you all of those plus Camper, Campway, Dietz, Everbright, Eveready, Eye, Grand Master, Oumw, Santrax, Solar, Stenley, Unimet, and TingKwon which right now are in China. Problem here is there are others also made in HK such as Petromax and some Sears lanterns.

    So we generally go by brand which in general also means by country. BUT we don't do it by brand and country always. Gloria for instance is in the US but a great deal is Australian. Still if we sort by country and then brand then they go in HK but if we sort by brand and note "Made In ---" that will also work.

    Seems to me we need to make finding these lanterns easy for site users but also perhaps to enable comparisons. I just don't know what would be best here. ::Neil::
     
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    My opinion would be to have it by brand. That is the name it is known by and not many people would know who the actual manufacturer is. That would then mean that the brand would go under the country it calls home.
     
  3. ColinG United Kingdom

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    As Hong Kong was part of the British Empire when some of the affected lanterns were made should there not be a section that reflects that? To have a lamp that was made in a sovereign British colony described as being Chinese always seemed a bit odd.
     
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    Colin

    I disagree. You can’t use the British Empire to define origin. Depending on one’s definition of this quaint colonialist concept you would sweep up many other countries. Also, Hong Kong was leased to the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.

    It might be sensible, though, to have Hong Kong identified separately or as a sub-section. This is the reason I always put Hong Kong in the title. Ditto Taiwan.

    Cheers

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  6. ColinG United Kingdom

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    To be perfectly honest I didn't expect a separate 'Empire' section, just that Hong Kong wasn't China.

    The problem of where to put what is one that is impossible to sort as there will always be exceptions.
     
  7. JonD

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    Wasn't Hong Kong always China as it was leased from them? No expert here except being there in 1997.
    I have a "Day of Retrun" Zippo as souvenir. Not my spelling mistake either!

    Thanks Ross @spiritburner for sorting that display problem in the code. It had me going for an hour or so. All looking very odd in all browsers!
     
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    I guess it was. Oh well, I'm just glad the Chinese section is being split up.
     
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    I prefer “China” and to place “Hong Kong” in the title.

    A while ago, Terry and I had a discussion about advice on ‘best practice’ for writing titles for threads. I might send my thoughts to you.

    Tony
     
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    Neil @Mackburner,
    This is a reply I today got from Lea Hin regarding the different brands Butterfly.

    I asked them about an old 500cp Butterfly lantern I have and also their connection with Cixi Sea Anchor Pressure Lantern Company.

    This is the reply I got:
    ”Dear Michael,
    From your description of the lantern you are having now, it is our lantern. Our factory is located in Indonesia, Head-office of Lea Hin Company
    is in Singapore. We are in this business since 1935.

    As for the Chinese company making lantern in Cixi, we have no relationship with this company and we also don't have any business dealing with them.

    Best Regards,
    Tung Wee Peng
    Lea Hin Co. (Pte) Ltd.
    Singapore”

    I hope this will clear some questions up.

    Michael
     
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  11. Mackburner

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    Michael. Indeed that is a great help. Problem now will be working out which was made where and by which company. Since you seem to have a line into Lea Hin maybe you could ask them about Ting Kwon which I thought was part of the group and did they ever have a Chinese factory. The other handy thing to know would be did or do Lea Hin use any other brand names for their lanterns. ::Neil::
     
  12. spiritburner

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    China done - hopefully! Happy to make changes to suit.
     

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