Veritas 350 - Look What Followed Me Home Today

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  1. Matty

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    Damien.

    I use graphite rope that comes wound together in 4 strands. Once I remove the old packing, I generally cut the graphite rope to that length and put one end of the rope inside the gland nut then use a small picking tool to push the packing down as I rotate the nut. I generally use one strand but on larger valves have used two strands together.

    Once packed, I tighten the gland nut on the valve and it compresses the packing. I trim any bits that may have been cut by the threads of the valve and gland nuts. I just make sure no little bits have entered the valve housing by completely removing the valve and checking.

    The stuff I use, thanks to a post I read started by @Henry Plews , is great stuff, I highly recommend it. If you haven't got any, I'll send you some and you can try it. If you want a photo of it, just give me a hoy.
     
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    @Damien

    I’m now interested to know if this lamp came with a rubber or graphite packing. Did you have any remnants in the packing nut?

    Graphite packing comes in many forms: as a sheet (various thicknesses), as string (mixed with fibre), as a preformed shape etc).

    I can send you some (I have a local supplier).

    First, though, what was in your packing nut?

    Tony

    Edit: Crossed with Matty.
     
  3. Damien Australia

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    The packing nut appeared to be free from ANY sort of gasket material; mind you, I was so eager to soak and clean things that I may have scrubbed out any packing that was there, simply in my ignorant enthusiasm to have all the metals/alloys back to their raw form!
    The washer/grommet/gasket seems intriguing, though.
     
  4. Henry Plews

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    I've had the same experience but can't remember if it was on a 350 or a Superb. I fixed it by replacing the original packing with graphite string.

    Henry.
     
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    Some early lanterns and probably stoves too, used asbestos! I've only found it on one lantern and I can't remember which now! Just be careful if you find some greyish brown rope type stuff!
     
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    I was gifted a Veritas by @Darryl Durdin and it arrived today. The first thing I did was to check what the packing situation was. The packing is very similar to that what Coleman uses. It must be that your packing has been destroyed, removed and replaced with a 'tie it up with wire" solution.

    I have removed bad Coleman packing and used the graphite rope and it works just fine. I recommend that you just use some graphite rope. If you send me your details, I'll post some off to you so you can have a crack at it.

    I might do a video and show how I do things. I don't say my way is for everyone but I have found my way to be very easy to do, very cheap overall and very effective.
     
  7. Damien Australia

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    Damien Dignam
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    I know one would not normally give addresses over an open forum, but right or wrong I'm extremely trusting of all of you!
    Thanks again for all the effort. I understand that while you're reading threads from newbies it takes away from your precious time, but it's very much appreciated.
     
  8. Matty

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    Damien,

    You should have messaged me.

    @Carlsson would you please delete Damiens details. I have taken note of them.
     
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    Thanks Matty.
     
  10. Damien Australia

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    Is the NRV the same in the Aladdin A1, i.e. will the 5mm slot do the trick, because my steel rod keeps jumping off the top of the Aladdin NRV. Just wondering if they're exactly the same size. Cheers.
     
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    @Damien

    They should be very close to the same width. Be careful not to round off the NRV. If the tool is 'jumping off' you should use some penetrating oil (Penetrene or 50:50 acetone and ATF) and soak fill the bottom of the pump tube and let it sit for a few days.

    Putting the tool in a vise, and putting the tank over the tool and twisting the tank gives you more torque for a tough NRV. The ultimate is wrecking the NRV, then having to unsolder the pump tube.

    Cheers

    Tony
     
  12. Damien Australia

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    Yep.... she's jumped off more than once. It looks fairly burred; probably and partly from previous owner at a guess. I've had no luck at all with the Aladdin A1 NRV. Mind you, this is brilliant Veritas thread, so I'll jump ship and put up a pic of my A1 leaking problem!
     
  13. Matty

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    That is the sum of my attempts to ever get a really stuck NRV out.

    How this design went for 120 years and didn't get someone fired, I don't know. Clearly there are issues with the design. Bleeding hearts will stick up for their beloved manufacturers that used this design, I get that. Still, it was an easy fix that was ignored and still is ignored for 120 years.

    The factory can say, it isn't our fault if an owner over tightens the NRV, blame them not us. If you are in the middle of a week long camping trip and you have one or two NRV fail and you can't do what should be a very simple task of replacing the NRV's, well, now you are up Schitt Creek without a paddle, you may even be up Schitt Creek without a canoe.
     
  14. Matty

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    Damien,

    I keep meaning to say that until a couple of years ago, I had a dog that looked very much like yours. She was a massive dog, with a very scary face with blood red eyes, eyes that drew your attention to.

    She used to scare the hell out of people that dared lock eyes with her.

    She was a lovely tempered dog at first but little things began to creep into her behaviour. I ignored a fair few of the little things then one Saturday afternoon she raised one of my eyebrows. I was sitting there watching a John Wayne movie when Roxy went nuts and was trying to get through the front door. A maddening mixture of barking and pawing and jumping at the door. I looked out the window and saw some poor soul was ambling up the road. I wondered how much ambling they may have ever done again if Roxy had of been able to get to them.

    About a week later, nearly identical setting though the movie may have been to Have To and Have Not, with Humphrey Bogart. Roxy was snoozing on the floor, Cobber was snoozing on the lounge. Cobber must have been dreaming and he whimpered a little bit (perhaps in his dream, one of his beloved balls had rolled out of reach). Cobbers whimper awoke Roxy and she tore into him grabbing him by the neck and tossing him across the room then before he could recover, she would be on him again repeating the assault.

    That was enough for me, she was turning into a stone cold killer. Up until this point, I'd forgotten that around this time she had killed our resident chook. The chook had been with us for 5 years and was in no way afraid of the dogs. I didn't witness the attack on the chook but I didn't need to think hard about what 2+2 equalled.

    After discussions with an animal shelter that promised they wouldn't put Roxy down without trying to rehabilitate her, off to the rescue shelter she went.

    Believe me, this photo does not capture the ill intent usually associated with Roxy's eyes.
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    My daughter was vacuuming the bedrooms one hot summers day. Top to bottom, Abby (Deceased, cancer) Cobber, Jack and Roxie. Abby, Cobber and Roxy were rescue dogs of kind. Owners sought us out that could no longer care for them. Cobber was just a pup, Abby was 4 and it wouldn't surprise me if Roxie has been around since the dawn of time.
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    The lump by herself. I think Roxie may have had a litter of puppies taken of her too early. She would use that toy as comfort sometimes.

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    15882864687871154702528420314386.jpg Roxie looks like a rotty cross?
    I had a rotty cross ridgeback and she was a brilliant bitch. The new one in member's photo, taken at my campsite out of Neville NSW, is a pure bred with all the papers... German dad, imported semen...... ra, ra, ra. She's a good bitch, but a bit flighty. Loves children and I don't mean for breakfast!
    Temperament can be a huge factor... horses as well.... and as for temperamental Veritas lamps and bloody NRV's.... don't get me started !!! (And I'm a newbie!)
    Cheers Matty. Thanks for the yarn. I can relate.
     
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  16. Matty

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    I believe Roxy was indeed that, Rotty and Ridgeback. She was a massive lump of a dog and incredibly loving in her own way. I was never scared of her of feared for anyone that lived with her. She was most certainly a very good candidate of doing someone some serious damage.

    When she attacked Cobber after Cobber whimpered in his sleep, I think she thought she was helping Cobber. He was whimpering and she was trying to fix the problem. If killing him meant the problem was fixed, so be it.
     

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