Kayen font dents

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  1. seajay

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    This Kayen table lamp is a recent acquisition. Made by Knopsen in Sydney it has a copper font/fount. Sadly there are 2 significant dents in the copper that need to be removed. I have successfully removed dents in a brass Primus 210 stove using the 'freezer method' but i am not sure if this is appropriate here.

    I could accept these as scars of the years but I would be happy to receive advice re the dent removal.

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    Try the freezer method just don't over fill the fount with water so the ice expansion doesn't get out of hand. I think if the ice hit the top of the fount it is likely to bow the base plate.

    (Edit. I only just realised you have only made one post. I have removed my offer of a replacement fount but if you are still on the forum in 6 months or a year and the ice method damages your fount, I'd consider then sending you one for the cost of postage.)
     
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    Matty

    Thank you for your response.

    The 'medication must be kicking in' because on very close inspection it is brass rather than copper!!

    Ill have to move all the frozen food out of the freezer to make way for the lamp.... sounds like a line out of The Castle.

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    Chris
     
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    Copper ones have been found I believe. I can't say for sure if it is Kopsen or Nettlefold or both that did a few copper founts.
     
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    Welcome aboard!:thumbup:
     
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    Ha! @seajay

    You’ve come over from the dark side (CCS)...

    Welcome to the light side. :thumbup:


    Cheers

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    Welcome from Queensland Australia.
    I found that it may help to freeze a layer, about the bottom 1/3 of the fount first. This will provide a solid ice base for the later expansion and will tend to prevent the base from bulging.
    It has worked for me a number of times.
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    Thank you all for your kind welcome and advice. The devil really does find work for idle hands!

    I have a number of Coleman and Austramax (my favourite) lamps and a couple of very old Tilley lamps that I have not used for several years. I am a complete novice when it comes to table lamps, as time will show.

    The afore mentioned Kayen lamp is testing my patience. As well as the dents, which will have to wait, the top of the vaporiser has resisted all attempts at removal from the burner. I have sprayed the parts with Selleys RP7, used 3 in 1 and several cycles of heat and quench and all that has happened is that my dog left the room because of my vile language. The bottom of the burner is slightly ovoid, rather than round and i suspect that a previous owner tried to remove that vapouriser, also without success, Perhaps another case of the 'exploding pregnant vapouriser'.

    I have seen mention of stainless steel vaporisers from Asia, with some replaceable parts. Tony Press has discussed one Korean Tilley Vapourisers, (which I assume is 132595930014).

    However there are 2 others from Taiwan 113825415832 and ,174121398380 that look interesting.

    If I have to replace the vaporiser should these be considered??

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    Hi there seajay, it will not make any difference if you scuttled you burner, salvage the air caps if possible as these are hard to come by, get a new vap and burner assembly tilley, put it all back together, it will work fine. Did it with one of mine
     
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    Be careful, people will start thinking you are an engineer with problem solving like that.
     
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    @seajay

    The one I posted works well. I’ve not tried the others.


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    @seajay

    Before you destroy the burner, can you post a few photos of it so I can see the various parts.

    If it’s a Kayen burner, it might be best as a last resort to destroy the vapouriser. By the way, does it have straight or diamond knurling).

    The vapouriser is easier to match than the Kayen burner.

    Can you also confirm that the spigot does not unscrew from the burner?


    Cheers

    Tony

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    @Matty
    Bugger! Hadn't thought of that .......:-k
    Cheers
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